Jetstar - Wannabes & Recruitment II
 

Hey there, is anyone going to the assessment day next week on Monday Dec 3 in Sydney?
Does anyone know what to expect and what the conditions are like pay, flying hours, career progression etc...

Jetstar
 

Hey everyone,
I am going for a interview with Jetstar next week-for cabin crew and i was wondering if someone could give me some pointers as to what they might ask/do etc..and what i should wear??
also if anyone knows what the pay is like for Jetstar long haul...and what the rosters are like.
if anyone could help me out i would Appreciate it!
Cheers! xx

Im going to the one in Melb dec 13th and i wanna know all the same info as u..

sydney assessment/openday/interview
 

Hey Cabincrew511 im going to the Sydney session next monday.
Are you going then aswell?

made it!
 

I got through the assessment centre and final interview, juts got emailed the security and medical check forms.
Hopefully it all goes well from here on in!

morning tea
 

hey i have just had my group interview with jq on the 5th dec and have made it to the morning tea on monday. im shorter then 163 will they look at my height in the end? and also has anyone got any tips on what happens at the morning tea and how to act?

congrats
 

congrats cc1986 i was meant to be at your interview but they were all booked out for that day so they made another 2 days later. i need tips for the final. what questions do they ask you this time? any help would be great

Hey congrats cc1986 on getting thru to medical & security checks! :D I'm starting ground school (for domestic MEL base) this coming Monday. :) I can't wait to get started!

To give you or any others a little timeline of my process of events as perhaps some indication to how quickly things might happen for you; my initial assessment centre was on Oct 16th, had my morning tea a couple of days later on the 18th, received the email the next night (the 19th) to book medical and complete security clearance forms, had two of my referees called the middle of the following week, went to my medical on Nov 2nd, then got a phone call on Nov 14th from the regional base manager for VIC/TAS/SA a.k.a. general manager of Team Jetstar saying I'd been offered a position. Ground school, as I said, starting on 10th Dec.

Once I got the email to go get the medical & security stuff done, I pretty much viewed that as OK the most variable and influential part of the process (the interviews) were out of the way and they were obviously satisfied with me from that, now everything from now on can't really be directly affected by me... ie. I would have to have had a medical problem I didn't know about, I knew I didn't have a criminal history, and I was very confident with what my referees would say about me... so I gave myself a 95% chance of getting the job at that point. I don't know if I was just lucky and maybe with others a LOT can happen in that stage to affect your chances, but I'd say you should be right mate! :ok:

And xsite, well done on getting thru to the morning tea! I reckon getting past the assessment centre is the biggest hurdle cause they do a HUGE part of their 'culling' of numbers on that first day and the morning tea I thought was more fine-tuning and shedding just a few more candidates.

After they give you more information about the job, including expected pay, hours, lifestyle considerations, etc. they then just set ya free to grab tea/coffee from the front of the room and then you literally just find the nearest person or group and start a chat about ANYTHING; usually just about what they're doing work-wise at the moment, or have done in the past, and you just find stuff to talk about from there!

There's one or two of the recruiters who hang about in the chit-chat room to have a casual chat with you - normally just about the same stuff - I found it was good to ask them how long they'd been in the job and what positions they've held, etc. and show a bit of interest that way.

Totally just be yourself, relax and have a good laugh (not too fake and acted though!) with the other candidates and with the recruiters - let your personality come through. Try your best to fill those awkward gaps of silence, and make sure to gracefully move on to another group of people after a bit of time, to show that you're interested in meeting and chatting with everyone in the room and not just a few that you've become "cushy" with, hehe. :E

While this is happening, they'll be inviting candidates out to another room one at a time per recruiter for a one-on-one interview. I found it to be very much like the one at the assessment centre - most people's were briefer than the first day though and only had two or three questions asked of them. Mine were more about scenarios I'd encountered in my work history;... Describe a time you've encountered an 'obstacle' at work (with a project, or customer, or workmate) and explain how you worked through that or resolved it... And the other was tell me about a time where you've had to work in a close-knit team environment to achieve a goal or complete a task, and describe to me how you communicated effectively with each other to achieve that goal... Most people's questions were different, but a few others copped the team-work one.

Hopefully this has shed a bit of light on what you can expect to happen at your morning tea. ;) Treat this just as a guide though, who knows how much each one varies from the other. All the best with it! Remember above all that the morning tea is designed to be more casual and relaxed, so try and show that a little (without coming off like a slack-a*se, lol). :ok:

Will jetstar consider applicants if there height is outside the 163-183cm height range?

A Heads Up Boys and Girls
 

Early next year Qantas is going to commence a recuitment drive for LHCC on far better T and Cs than Jet *.Use The interviews as practice for the real game.The life of a Qantas LH Crew member is human compared to Jet*

thanks ;)
 

thanks heaps i want to fly....youve been a great help with it all. i didnt expect someone to reply so quickly. i guess the only thing thats worrying me is my height i am only about 153cm so pretty short but i will take as they have seen this when they measured me at the initial interview. well ill have my fingers crossed *.....even if i dont get this one at least i know i have rex waiting for me on the holding list for training, only downfall is you dont get the job until you do the unpaid training.....ill be in touch on monday!:)

lhcc
 

hey surfside if your refering to london heathrow cabin crew they have already started as a girl i work with currently has left already for london and is expected to start training in london early next year.

Congrates CC1986 on getting your medical & security check. In regards to Want2fly's comments, you may be put on a 'active hold' list. Alot of people that went to the oct interviews, and were successful, still do not have a training school date. Reason i know this, is one of my best friends in on that list, and received an email today, advising that they still have not worked out training school dates for 2008 and they will contact them as soon as a date is confirmed.

FYI . . . . you may not be in a training school until mar/april or even maybe later. From the last intake, apparently they recruited approx 100.

Qantas Recruitment Drive
 

The Recruitment will be for around 550 crew ...based in Sydney ..Australia.
The Recruitment will continue for the next few years as new aircraft arrive and new destinations are incorporated into the existing network.
Qantas expansion over the next 5 years is mooted to be the largest in its history.

DO jetstar (or qantas) consider applicants outside the 163-183cm height restrictions?

Hey guys,

I too am going to the Melb assessment on Dec 13 and quite nervous!
I have a friend who is currently training from LHCC outside of Vic and another friend who has just started their domestic ground school on Monday.
Im a little worried about this Team Jetstar stuff.. In my invitation is says that we will be asked about our knowledge of Team Jetstar.. Im tried researching it but Im afraid most of it is negative and I certainly dont want that attitude on the day!

Does any one have any tips or pointers? This is something I have wanted for ever and have just moved back to Victoria to pursue it.. I really hope I havent made the wrong decision!!

Hopeful xx

hopeful
 

I have just gone through the Sydney process and all I can say is stay relaxed. If MEL do the same they will make you feel very welcome. I found it helpful to log onto Jet* home page and look at the news articles, and various other pages about the company, they have won a couple of awards this year including best low cost carrier cabin crew for Aust/NZ. remember their promise (all day everyday lowfares etc) and they pride themselves on being warm and friendly.

good luck

Jetstar international
 

Has anybody been advised of any ground school in Melbourne for Jetstar international. What are the conditions like and any other info would be great.

Would anybody know why they had the last International recruitment drive straight after they closed it! Is there going to be more flying out of Melbourne. Im intrested in joining Jetstar and any info would be great.

Hi Xsite,

Just to let you know that Jetstar don't have a height restriction. I started 6 weeks ago,, and i am only 154cm.!! I was pretty scared about that as well, but it is not a requirement anymore .

How did you go in your interview??

Norge
 

Hey Norge

sydmum here, congratulations, I have also been through the medical and Security stuff, had a phone call this afternoon advising that offer will be in the mail next week, with GS down for the 29 Jan.

I mentioned that I have a family hol planned for 9 days in April, I have to make a phone call on Monday to find out if it is acceptable but it doesn't
sound like it's something they think will work. Who knows if I'll be in your GS or even have an offer. :ugh:

Normally I would happily cancel or re arrange but payments have been made and another family are involved. :{ and this has been booked since May this year.

Has anyone out there been in my predicament? I was hoping I could just take the time without pay.

Any comments from similar situations would be appreciated.

SYDMUM - not to be mean but whatever you do dont get your hopes up - i think it would be a 99.9% chance they will let you keep your holidays - and if they did its unfair to current crew who miss out on slots.
Bid slots have already closed for april and the only way you will get some is if you can bid for another slot for the bid period (if there is a slot left) and find someone to swap 2 weeks with you (highly unlikely as its hard enough to get a slot let alone one you really need)
Sorry - but more likely they will say that they may let you defer to a later ground school if you really cant not postpone your hols.. but they are not that forgiving.. in the past people have had to reschedule weddings and funerals to fit in with their annual leave (or lack of) and they def dont do leave without pay for any reason - at all.
Just giving you a heads up so you can start thinking about what you want to do.

In the hands of the gods
 

thanks guys, will keep you posted on how I get on.

It's going to be a very long weekend.

anyone notice that team jetstar are recruiting again for the SYD base? Strange because they only had an assessment centre here about 3 weeks ago! What's the go with this?? sounds abit fishy!
did they not have any luck 3 weeks ago? or are they trying to get as many people on AWA's before they get abolished?

Well they have announced about 35 Cabin Managers over a few bases so I guess they are expanding so need the crew. and we are getting bigger planes and the new crew are meant to be trained on the 320/321/330 so very interesting times ahead

You know you work for JQi when the take off minimum take off weight isn't met so they need to start filling drums of concrete in order to meet it.

CNS-NGO-KIX-CNS - a classic example.

and what has that constructive comment got to do with Jetstar?
Even as Qantaslink we sometimes had to sandbag the aircraft to keep the loadings even... ? but i dont think many wannabe cabin crew really care...

Futureflier I'd say the assessment centres will keep on coming thick and fast because they intend to have an extra 800 cabin crew here at Jetstar by the end of the year (2008). I'm in the third week of ground school for domestic Melbourne dual base and we've been told that another ground school will be starting on the 2nd of January, then another will start about a week or two later, and then ANOTHER before the end of January! :eek:

And I am pleased to announce that myself and the other 23 new crew in my ground school have voted unanimously to accept a new Collective Agreement that has been negotiated between Team Jetstar and the FAAA. :} Yay!

The contract we signed initially wasn't actually an AWA, it was a common law contract - an agreement between the individual and the company, ie. Team JQ. Well the FAAA got involved and had high-level talks with the new Team Jetstar management (Team JQ is a fully-owned subsidiary of Jetstar Airways) and a LOT of our pay and conditions have been improved modestly - but most importantly there are boundaries and assurances in place, or in WRITING, that weren't there under the previous contract. As well as guarantees of pay increases for each year of the 5 year agreement, and a re-negotiation on duty hours and rest periods at midpoint of the agreement (in about 2-3 years). We even had one of the chiefs from the FAAA come in last week to have a frank talk to us about what he thought of our initial offer compared to what he and the union were able to negotiate with Team JQ in the new agreement.

So we're all a lot happier that we've voted in this new agreement which ALL new cabin crew working for Jetstar will be signed under. And incase you hadn't already assumed; all future recruits to Jetstar cabin crew will indeed be employed under Team Jetstar.

Having said that, myself and the others in my ground school are a bit excited in that as an upside to our longer planned duty hours and maximum extendable duty hours we will now be considered for occasional international sectors on the A330 or the new regional international sectors on the A321. We're still domestic crew and will primarily fly domestic sectors for most of our roster periods though.

My ground school is only being trained on the A320 and we'll come back to do a 4 day conversion course for the A321 and A330 some time in the following few weeks once we're checked to line. However, the next ground school starting early Jan will have all 3 types included in their training.

I personally think it's quite exciting. :ok: It's the way the company is headed and you've just gotta go with it or be left behind I say - me and my friends at ground school are looking forward to the massive expansion that Jetstar will be undergoing in 2008.

The way of the future!!!!

I can tell with comments like that, that you are definately new to this game. Spare a thought that you will always be on a different wicket to the crew that are currently on line!!!!

Plus, not that I want to burst your bubble or anything, but you guys in accepting employment with JQ on less attractive conditions are cheapening the proffession!!!!:*

You will still be working more hours than the rest of us. And as excited as you may be now, I can guarantee that Team Jetstar will have higher sick leave than the old crew!!! You guys are going to be worked into the ground.

no news here
 

Hi everybody! anyone else got a start date? I have not heard back yet. Should i be worried?

Interview 8th Jan 08
 

hey norge
 

I finished my medical and ASIC clearance start of DEC, then out of the blue 2 weeks ago I got a phone call for an offer of employment. My ground school starts 14 th Jan (pretty excited) :) Just hang in there guys, your phone call is probably not to in the distant future.

Well said A320 GB, these new crew are saying they are 'excited' by the modest increase in t's & c's etc, if only they realise that they could have alot better still! It's simple, just DO NOT take a job with Jetstar on those conditions. If the airline could not get people to work for that money on those conditions then they would have to improve the offer..........

Also, regarding the conditions etc, can any Team Jetstar person(perhaps Want2Fly!) confirm exactly what your duty hours can be and what rest periods you are entitled to?
What is your max hours per DUTY and per ROSTER(and is it calander month or 28 days??)

Thanks

BlokeHostie:
This is according to the T's+C's that TeamJQ sent me.

Planned duty hous will either be:
i) Up to 152 hours (which may be average over a period of up to 12 months) plus reasonable additional hours, rostered over a 28 day roster period OR
ii)Up to 164.67 hours (which may be average over a period of up to 12 months) plus reasonable additional hours, rostered over a month where a month is defined in clause 1A in Appensix A OR
iii)Some other arrangement of 1976 ordinary hours (which may be average over a period of up to 12 months) plus reasonable additional hours.

Annual Base Salary
You will be paid an annual base salary of $32,500. The annual base salary includes all payments and allowmances other than those specified in clause 31. The salary covers all allowances for expenses and conditions associated with your work including grooming, laundry, uniforms, shoes, shift and miscellaneous expenses.

The base hourly rate wil be calculated using the following formula:
Applicable annual base salary/1976

Cut short on the next stuff, there is a domestic flying allowance of $11.40per/hr

Give us your thoughts people.

Also that you are not guarenteed 8days off/month, they are averaged over 12 months (ie you could have 4 one month then 12 the next) and 28days annual leave.

Wow sounds great. Sick leave will be low. Moral will be high. All in all a good deal. Congrats to all those who come on board.... Oh and I am being sarcastic

I've worked under a common law contract with a different company before.

For those here who have a copy of the contract and are taking the offer seriously I would like you to do me a favour. Go grab yourself a highlighter, preferably orange in colour. I want you to highlight every place in that contract that has "resonable" after a statement.

I will tell you that your view of resonable and the company's view of resonable will be somewhat different.

Enjoy life at team JQ.



and smartalec, i'm not too sure which angle you're trying to take here. One minute you're slagging off Jetstar about concrete and the 330. Next thing you're telling us all that you have a team JQ contract.

:hmm:

smartalec - there is no such thing as "minimum take-off weight".

You may however need ballast to put the a/c into correct weight & balance - however this can be required even when aircraft are close to their maximum take off weight.

i shiver at the thought of 'reasonable' additional hours - for you it may mean being allowed to go an hour over your limit - for me it means its the end of the month and you are already way out of hours - but they will now work you on 'reaonable additional hours' - you will probably be ROSTERED to your maximum hour limit each month and then given standby days in addition - and any delays just add on as part of the 'reasonable' bit.
Sorry but that sucks. I know what they are like now - i cant imagine they will treat the ability to work you into the ground 'reasonably'

A_B_P

If you pay peanuts....

;)

airbusthreetwenty,

couldn't have said it better myself.:ok: