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Old 1st Sep 2010, 19:00
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Yes Yelly, you can have your opinion but what you might not realise is that Mari is trying to help you.

During training you will be expected to find information in your manuals, yes, you will have to 'search' for it and not everything will be fed to you like in primary school.

Pprune actually is also a search engine as well as a forum, that is why it has a "SEARCH" button at the top.

We are happy to answer questions but all we ask is that you have a look for yourself first, if you cannot find the answer then sure, we'll tell you. So far most of the questions I have answered have not already (or recently) been answered, some of the things are answers that may have changed since Mari did her training. Yes a forum is about interaction but it's also about learning and you can't do that without some effort on each side.
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Old 1st Sep 2010, 19:27
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The problem here is the condescending nature thereof, just because I'm not using the search function does not mean I don't know how to.(I'm a political analysist and I'm doing my post grad in Law). Research is nothing new to me.

The point I'm trying to make is you can help someone in a nice way. You for example answered all our questions (they were asked before) in such a nice and polite manner.I think the best would be to agree to disagree.
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Yellybaby, when you have finished reading the thread - and any of the previous incarnations of this thread that you care to find - then you can ask any unanswered questions that you may have.

People do not take kindly to the bone-idle who expect everyone else to spend their time and effort answering questions that have been asked and answered innumerable times in the past.

No-one here who has the knowledge that you wish to acquire is in any way bound to pass it on to you, and when (if) they do, accept it gratefully and gracefully. A lesson, perhaps, that you would do well to learn.

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Yellybaby,

you waited 16 weeks for your Golden Call. (It was you who sent pictures 5 times, right?) It seems to me that "general rules" (are there any?) didn't apply to you.

As a "general rule" my friend submitted all the documents, she did everything great, she was lucky, EK needs people, she got the Call after 8 days. (All photos were accepted.) All of her fellow applicants are still waiting but they all had to send some papers and pictures. It was an extremely big number of people (21) who made it to the Final in Bratislava, half of them will get a rejection letter. Some have to wait 2 weeks, some have to wait 8 weeks. Waiting is horrible but what to do?! What could you tell them??? You waited 16 weeks. My friend waited 8 days. What would be your answer to a question how much time XY has to wait?

You started to read (or just write?) in July. Still, you asked every time "how much time does it take to...?" when many people posted the exact dates about their own recruitment process during the summer. Why did they do that?! Did someone ask them to post short and organized posts with the dates?! They just wanted to provide facts to people who are waiting and summarize the info in 1 post for YOU. Not one ppruners did that but many, following the others as they realized that the "waiting game" is so painful. You read some of them and you have a general idea about the timings: very easy. Would you believe one person?! (I wouldn't!!!) If you had read this forum for 2 months, you should have had a general idea what to expect. As I understand you were too busy to read.

One of the girls in the Qatar topic also asked how long she has to wait so she wouldn't check her e-mails million times a day. Really?! Well, I can tell you: I wouldn't move from my computer or from my iphone for sure! I would read pprune and think: "OK, she got the news in 5 days so maybe tomorrow... OK, she got the mail after 2 weeks, so I still have a chance." Surely, I would be anxious all the time and keep checking my account! Do I really care when the others received the answer I'm waiting for?! I want my answer and I want it from Emirates!

Anyways, you got your date of joining. If your medicals are fine (are they?), you are fine. What you wanted to hear: There is nothing to worry about, it's just a formality, you get your approval sooner or later.

By the way, my post was not rude, just short and straight to the point. (It wasn't really addressed to you but to other ppruners as well.) I know that I have my own style but I'm just so tired to put on my "mask" at work (sweet, nice, polite, patiant ALL TIMES! dealing with very difficult situations and people every flight) that I want to be myself when I'm not at work. I really deserve forgiveness. (I'm not kidding: I'm dead tired, I fly non-stop, my salary was never better... no time and energy to spend, though...)

You didn't need encouragement and you should have had all the info you needed as you've been on pprune since July. Why should I tip-toe around? I knew that someone would write down the answer (as you wanted to read it) that the approval could take a couple of days or a couple of weeks. Not a very factful information but that's what you wanted to read. You got it. Well, I cannot wait to see RedHat's style after 400 posts and 3 years.

I'm sorry that you don't like your current job or the major you chose. (Political analyst? Post grad in Law?!) Working for Emirates will be a brand new and exciting experience for you and quite challenging, I guess. I'm sure you will stay with us for 1 or 2 years to experience something different and travel the World. You might even like this job, actually... Please, let us know in 6 months how it goes.

Oh, there was a girl above who really needed the contact details of HR/recruitment. Did you send it to her in a private message? (It would have been very nice and supportive.)

I always have to remind myself that it's a wannabe thread and I shouldn't actually post anything. Sorry about that... I could gossip about the lost off days and the little bonus in the EK topic but who needs all the complaints?! I'm honestly happy that I have a job, good salary, career opportunities and I love living in Dubai. Oh, oh, I have new gossips for new-joiners!!! (Fresh from board!) One of my new crew told me that 2 of her batch mates were let go during the probation! (It wasn't like that in the "old days".) One had 2 absent days: fair enough. One had a sick day! I was suspicious, so I asked what happened. Well, she called sick for her very first supy flight... They are really strict nowadays, so try to do your best. Keep in mind: They need people who can fly 120 hours a month and willing to do 7 horrible night turnarounds a month! And don't put on weight. I just wanted to add some value to this post...

Good luck with the joining process!

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Old 1st Sep 2010, 23:37
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Hello

Hello there, I just wanted to thank Mari and ThatRedHatGirl for all the info that you provide, it is really helpful.

Mari I think it is better to be just who you are, you are certainly not here to please anyone, you already helped us all wannabees enough with all your posts.

I have a question, I had my FI two weeks ago but I hadn´t with me the letter of employment nor my full length photo. I send them as they asked to the e mail address they gave me that day. How can I make sure they got them? I already send an e-mail asking but got no response. Anyone knows about this? Thank your very much for your help.

And as many of you, I´m waiting for my status to change....I do check it at least ten times a day!! I want it so baaad! as Mari mentioned, for me this opportunity means the change I sooo need in my life!

Good luck
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Old 2nd Sep 2010, 00:31
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Mari and Yellybaby

Now is as good a time as any...

I agree with yellybaby! And I'm glad someone said it. I was taken aback by some of Mari's harsher posts... Some people seem to LOVE it when they're rude? So I guess it's an individual thing.

I think the great thing about the forums is that you can go through the 'omg what does this mean??' process with people you end up starting with, which forms relationships and builds excitement.

I do search back through the forums but I also like asking the girls on my start date because we have the same recruitment officer so there's prob going to be similar results. I can understand that this would be frustrating to watch over and over again... I dont personally get why you do it?

I agree, if someone asks a silly question leave it up to someone who is still in the 'omg emirates' stage to reply. Skim over to a question only you can answer and maybe you'll be less grumpy?

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Old 2nd Sep 2010, 04:44
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Mari, we love you

I'm a regular reader yet infrequent poster. Just want to send a shout-out to Mari. You do a great job, and please keep it up. I hope the company have recognised the work you do and if they haven't... someone should let them know.

I'm flying with EK for almost 2 years now. I love my job. I went to the interview armed with a lot of useful information that I learned from this forum, especially from Mari, even 2 years ago.

Anyway, I felt the need to post now just to wish BigAl and Yellybaby good look with their future career with Emirates. If you find mari "rude" and "condescending", then you will need all the luck you can find when you start flying as a grade 2 in economy.

Mari says it like it is, and I'm sure she is sick of repeating herself when people keep asking the same questions over and over, simply because they are too lazy to use the "search" button.

Mari, much love and keep up the good work
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Old 2nd Sep 2010, 05:52
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Yay Mari!

There are some things in life that are priceless - Wisdom and Experience. Mari, I applaud you, and hope that people see you only have their best interests at heart. I really hope people can change their attitude or they'll have A HARD time in training, negotiating with their CCMs and those late night economy turn arounds! Less ego, more passive people! It just might save you a future of regrets. We love you Mari!
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Old 2nd Sep 2010, 05:56
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kenyan, killian, mari, yellybaby

Yeah look I dont want to be ungrateful for all the useful information on this forum. It's VERY nice of someone to sit on a computer and answer wannabe questions instead of doing 1000 more exciting things! So thanks, really!!!

But I wanted to stick up for yellybaby cos I think she has raised a valid point.

Ideally, people should feel free to ask any question on a forum. Otherwise why not just replace the forum with an info sheet with all the typical questions answered?

The point is we're all here to help each other out.

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Old 2nd Sep 2010, 06:23
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I agree with YellyBaby and Al. Mari, I am not saying this to be mean to you, just to make you aware (if you are not already) that some of your comments come across as condescending and mean. If you have nothing constructive to add, then why waste the time and energy in writing a response? Again, I do not say this to criticize you, but I feel bad for those who may have felt belittled by your comments. Maybe because you are not a native English speaker you do not realize the negative tone that may come across in some of your comments?

Also, this is my first post, but I have been reading this forum off and on for some time now. I just read it out of curiosity to see what's going on with Emirates, etc. I flew as crew for Emirates in 2008. It was in general a good experience, but not worth permanently giving up the life I had left at home; so I resigned after 7 months with the company. Overall, I think how much you enjoy working for Emirates is based on how good the life/lifestyle you're leaving is...does that make sense? Sorry, for going off on a tangent, but it was just something on my mind.
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Old 2nd Sep 2010, 08:10
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Stop this Nonsense



If i am not completely Wrong this is not the I hate/love Mari Thread. If
i am actually right This one is Cabincrew Wannabes. Am i right?

So we don´t we all put our differences aside.

I left this forum for 2 weeks to finish my medicals and it´s already a
Pandemonium. Where have all the Question/answer/congratulating people for
their GC, gone?

I believe this difference of way of thinking or replying people began
with Mari and Yelly, so why is it that i have passed 3 different posts
with people arguing about Mari´s manners.

"Let he who is without Sin cast the first Stone"

Many of you didn´t have the courage to tell her and now that someone did
you all come out like a pack of hyenas on a wounded animal.

You may all have not liked or disliked her way of helping. But she trully
help us all. Even if some may find her sometimes rude, she STILL HELPED
YOU THROUGH YOUR NEEDS WHEN NOBODY TOOK THEIR TIME TO DO SO. In any case i
would thanks her anyway and wait for someone else to reply me or try to
find it on me on. Or maybe ask a friend like I did with Pipita and she did
the same too.

This is not a way of taking sides on anyone. I Respect Yelly so much for
telling her the way she felt. Very proud of you girl!

And i also thanks Mari for her infinite wisdom.

The rest of you... Drop this matter and move on with what this Thread is
about. CABIN CREW WANNABES. Stop this nonsense and let this Space for
those who need it. For those who want to be a cabin crew and have
thousands of doubts.

Peace!
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Old 2nd Sep 2010, 10:52
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Guys, just ASK whatever you want to ask. You will get some kind of answer.

If you don't like a post, ignore it.

If you didn't get the answer and you are lazy to read back: ask again and again.

If there is a post which is inappropiate, it will be removed. Very easy.

Happy flying!
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Old 2nd Sep 2010, 11:20
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Hey all,

I've just spent the last few hours 'catching up' as I hadn't visited the forum in a while and am I shocked to see whats going on ..

Personally I'll agree with biotech...c'mon people just be grateful to everyone (including Mari) who have spent their time sitting in front of their computers to answer questions, post their experiences and provide congratulations and encouragement!!! Alot of these which most people close to us us probably failed to do. Yet, here we are, most of us strangers, from different countries, cultures and walks of life helping each other out.

I believe we are all here on this forum for a reason...so can we just focus on the bigger picture and not take things personally??? please
We're all adults here, from all parts of the world. For some of us English IS our native language, for others it is NOT and for this reason the tone of certain posts could be ambiguous...(trust me I know as I deal with all kinds of people every day of my life, some kind, some rude, some demanding and some who think that since they are the customers they have the right to do or say whatever they want no matter how annoying or ridiculous it may sound!!!)

Besides none of knows what another member of the forum may be going through when he/she writes something down because more often than not, we are sitting in the comfort of our own homes or offices and only concerned about OURSELVES..(just placing my view here but I hope you get what I mean)

So, could we please end this Mari/Yellybaby 'escapade' here and move on please?

Yellybaby congratulations so far. I know it's stressful but here's hoping you get your feedback from EK soon.
Mari, thank you for taking your time to answer our questions and provide us with info, tips and encouragement. I think (and I know alot will agree) you're a very essential part of this forum and you have helped so many of us when we had no idea who to turn to, so thank you.

*Sorry if I upset anyone by saying what I did and sorry for any typos or grammatical errors. I've had a long crappy day with a very less-than-pleasant customer and it's way past midnight.

Take care everyone....
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Old 2nd Sep 2010, 11:42
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I AGREE!

I did not intend for this to become a 'my team versus your team' situation. I simply wanted to say that out of personal experience, its not what you say but how you say it.Putting a little emotional intelligence to the test will get you very far-promise.

abcdefghijkl

Funny you should mention it, thats exactly what I said to a friend yesterday, totally agree!If you have a great life, why leave it? I have heard horror stories of how some girls live and their day to day lives, to them having your own bedroom is awesome.

I'm doing this for other reasons than most, things are not too great in SA at the moment. I love my friends, family, boyfriend and job.But still I need money to complete my degree, and compared to a study loan that will take me YEARS to repay,and a one bedroom apartment in down town Cape Town costing half my salary- this is living a dream.

Some gossip-
Apparently EK will only be recruiting A380 cabin crew in Dec.My friend just finished her A380 training. I'm only repeating what she said. Thought I would add it for those who are joining soon.

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Old 2nd Sep 2010, 12:38
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YellyBaby

Hi YellBaby

I am one of those people who decided not to post anything on the "Search" issue. Like everyone else, I wante peace on this forum sooner.

However, if you choose to put horror and Philippines in the same sentence, you could have exercised a bit more of cultural sensitivity. You can say that you have put a qualifier --"some", but at the end of the day it is horror=Philippines that gets stuck in people's heads. And since we are on the subject of qualifiers, not saying Philippines but "in some developing countries" would have been more appropriate.

I was not personally offended, but my intelligence certainly did take a hit.
I have read your posts on the "search" issue and your main line was to be sensitive on how your posts come across, that's basically were the offense comes from for me now.

Oh well, congratulations on your application process, can't say I can't wait 'till you're flying up there!
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RavenLulu

I'm sincerely sorry if I offended anyone with that comment, but I was just so shocked when I heard how some teaching assistants are being treated in Qatar, and that its still better than at home,so I did not mean to indulge in any stereotype, thats the story I heard and I'm merely repeating it. I don't really like refering to developing countries, thats again a Western sterotype.So I would rather call it by the name, as politely as possible.

ps I did feel it appropriate to remove that piece of info, as I can convey my message without it.Thank for giving your point of view the way you did!
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The Longest Wait?

My friend who is STILL waiting to have her status upgraded from APPROVAL IN PROGRESS interviewed in Miami in late June. She did just receive the tattoo form from EK but nothing else. Has anyone else waited this long to hear from EK?
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Old 2nd Sep 2010, 14:52
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:P

I´m also waiting for my medical Clearance , submitted all the exams last friday and still no response .
Not too worried , since my DOJ is November 22nd , still have lots of time !

Good Thusday to y´all !
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DOJ 4 months away

Hi all,
I'm currently unemployed( and they know it), which means I can join ASAP and I'm really starting to wonder why I got a DOJ for Dec.27. that's 4 months away.some people got called after me and got a DOJ for the beginning of Nov., a difference of two months.that's weird. Anyone with an idea what's going on?
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hello NAVELO!

Well im not sure why, but you can always ask them if you can join before? IM SURE they will be happy about this... tell them you want your DOJ sooner. It won't be a problem, and im sure it's not that there is something "wrong" with you (YOU GOT IN!!!! )

no need to worry.
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