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Old 1st Aug 2010, 23:16
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Don't worry. If it's not visible when in uniform, you should be fine.

I've never seen this form in my life but I doubt that a tattoo on your hip or your breast would be a problem...

It's good that you think ahead. Read this thread: ignore the short posts, concentrate on the LONG posts, there is the info.

Find some cabin crew blogs: some of my colleagues write excellent blogs, posting rosters every month and put on beautiful pictures. You find info about the training, accomodations, crew lifestyle. Do some research!
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Hi all,

I am yet another silent reader of these posts finally getting enough jest to write about my experience with EK...

My first try at an OD in 2008.. I never heard back... so I moved on with life till I saw the averts for EK CC 2010 and thought hmmm why not?

I applied online and 3 weeks later received an invite to attend a preliminary selection process. Of course I attended..who wouldn't right? I honestly didn't think that I'd make it past the first round but I did have some credible ground to stand on (university degree, customer service experience, non-cc airlines experince,etc) and gosh it was a very long day... it was quite similar to every other AD I have read about on this forum (reach test, talk about the person on your right, group discussions, english test and essay, etc..) it went from 8:30 am till after 7pm where a small group of us were told we made it through to the FI which were held over the next 2 days.

My online status was still "applied" the morning of my AD and only changed to "under review" prior to my FI. FI seemed to have gone quite well for me and I was told that EK would get back to me within 2-3 weeks but if I hadn't heard anything by 6 weeks I was to contact them.

I tried logging into my account 3 weeks after FI to check on my status but couldn't log in..
And then 2 weeks later .. there it was .. the rejection email on my gmail account


From my experience being locked out of your account wasn't a "positive" sign. but then again I had no idea if my status was changed from "under review" or not...
Unfortunately, I didn't know about this forum till everything had happened so I was quite clueless about how it all worked.

To those who didn't make it - I know it sucks but it doesn't end here. Maybe it just wasn't right at this point in time and it doesn't mean that you cannot try again. So chin up you have the next 12 months to prepare yourselves for another round
I was the only one who got the rejected in my batch but I'm not giving up...yet!!!

To everyone who has received their GC's - congratulations!! and those who are preparing for an OD, AD or FI - all the very best!!


**I did have a question that I cound not find the answer to. After being unsuccesful at an FI you have to wait for 12 months... Is it 12 months from AD, FI or the rejection email? I heard somewhere that its counted from the application date

If anyone knows please let us know....
Thanks in advance!!!
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Old 2nd Aug 2010, 00:05
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thanks mari, I am sure there must be some kind of discrimination law, I know people who have gone with tattoos and I personally find it a little off puttung when you hear things like that - if they're not visible why should it matter? I'm not a bad person or whatever other predjudice comes with having a tattoo. I will definitely keep trying to get in and cross that brigde if I ever (fingers crossed!) have to =)

I'm doing as much research as I can and know that the most important thing is to just be myself, especially at the open days where you only have a couple of minutes to dazzle them. As soon as I find out when the next open day is in my city I will prepare like crazy. Thanks for the hint on blogs - I will definitely look into those and see if I can find any hints. This board has been an interesting find, I hope to one day be one of the lucky ones to receive a GC!

Good luck to the other brissy girls I hope you get some good news soon! xx
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Old 2nd Aug 2010, 00:15
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I'm so shocked! You are so nice and clever with excellent background! What the hell happened?!

I'm very sorry and I hope you will try it again and MAKE it next time! (Whenever the time is right for you!!!)

It has to be 12 months between the OD/AD date and the next OD/AD.

Think through the questions and the answers you gave during your final interview. You must have made a mistake. Appearance is also important: make it perfect next time.

Let me clarify:
I have a friend who was rejected once 13 years ago. (Yes, 13. That's the only info I have about feedback. Recruiters are not allowed to talk about these things.) She is Arabic and she had lived in Dubai before her interview and she had some local friends. The company was much smaller that time and her friends found out the feedback for her somehow. She mentioned to me three points:
- they didn't like her shoes
- they didn't like that she was wearing her sunglasses on her head
- she was chatting too much, didn't concentrate on the questions given, went to another direction, talked too much about herself, she was too easy-going, too laid-back.
That's all I know. (My friend made it the second time, later she got married and divorced, and she has been in private flying for 3 years now, lives in Dubai in her own flat and looks amazing at the age of 37.)

You obviously need LUCK as well. HR makes the decision but the recruiters write the reports. They write down everything in detail, they write down the facts, the answers you gave and add some comments. They are also humans, so if they really like you (or they are just tired) they might not mention details that might lead to the rejection letter. (Is that clear?) Pictures are also very important.

I'm very sure that you have the potential. It's actually not about being "good": you just NEED to fit the profile. Find out that profile by reading the Emirates homepage, the posts on forums and read some blogs, look at the pictures on the website and the blogs.

It's not easy to get in: competiotion is much harder than 5-10 years ago. There are more candidates (Emirates is very popular and there is crisis in aviation) and people are more prepared (use of internet and social network) for the event and EK hires all over the world. For example: there are much more recruits in North- and South-America and Eastern-Europe than 2-3 years ago, the percentage of Australina crew will be reduced. (We have around 9% of all crew from Australia but we have more than hundred nationalities.)

You shouldn't give up yet.

All the best!
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Old 2nd Aug 2010, 00:39
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Angeldream

Angeldream,

I believe it's 12 months from application date. Actually I think they just count twelve months from the month you applied, not to the exact date. I remember someone at the Adelaide OD who was unsuccessful at another OD five months ago (ten days short of the required six months), and the recruitment officer said that's fine.

Hope this helps, and congrats on getting to the FI stage. Obviously there's a career for you with EK, it's just a matter of when the time is right
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Old 2nd Aug 2010, 02:46
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Next stage...

Hi all just keeping everyone up to date.
I went for my FI on the 20th of July
Wa locked out of my account for a few days
My status had changed to approval in progress, 29th July And I received an email asking to sign a decluration about tattoo's on the 29th of July..
My status now says "you will be contacted".. Fingers crossed now ...
Really don't want to get to excited after reading last few post's..
Best of luck to others x
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Old 2nd Aug 2010, 03:49
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Everyone

What i noticed in my AD,which i didnt make (maybe next time or maybe never,i'll try next time and see) in 105 people they only took 13 to go to the next round...out of the girls chosen,one had a poloneck and her suit was a different coloured i.e the coat was a different colour to the skirt, no panty hose and no make up at all...another one had a long skirt,way below the knees and a weave that was not tied back,the other one didnt make the reach test and had a sweater and a skirt and no make up at all....two of them had shirts and skirts only,one shirt was the millitary type shirt and one had loop earings,one had a suit and a t-shirt inside...i didnt get to meet the others but only two had suits,pearls and red lipstick...its all LUCK!
Best of luck to everyone..
njeshwings,wow...happy for you.the fourths time a charm so i definately know you will make it this time...keep us posted.
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Old 2nd Aug 2010, 08:24
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appearance

Hopefulka,

Yes, during the OD lots of girls don't look perfect. You need to be pretty and tidy of course. We all know that, you just need to read through the posts about the ODs... (There are plenty of them on pprune.) Girls with hair down and girls wearing trousers and ballerina shoes make it to the FI. Sure.

As Jess mentioned previously they used her as an example for the other ones: they explain before the FI how you have to look the next day and on the photos. Only a few people look immaculate on the first day and it makes a very good first impression. The recruiters explain in detail what they want to see the next day and what photos exactly they want to have: yet, many girls are not able to manage as they don't pay attention and cannot follow simple instructions. It's fact.

Is it ALL LUCK? So, you are telling the candidates that it's not worth to prepare and make an effort. You are wrong, I disagree with you.

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Old 2nd Aug 2010, 08:30
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OD 14 August

hi everybody, i just would like to share my situation with you. i applied for CC job with EK in May and been waiting for any response since then. i have already given up on that as there was no change in my status. so i have made planes for my summer holiday. and guess what? yes, i got invitation for OD on 14 August - just the day when i am going to be still on holiday sooooo upset

so i would like to ask you - it is just OD and my status changed to under review - do you think i could possibly attend any other open day in near future? i really do not know what to do (there is no way to cancel or postpone the holiday )

thank you for any advice
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Old 2nd Aug 2010, 08:47
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To all. Recent OD in Brisbane:

Well as per my previous post I updated you all on my progress..
I'm so disappointed.. The gal I made friends with the minute I walked into aviation australia. Megan has just got the email you have been unsuccessful. However her status is was on approval in progress.. But now says application unsuccessful
Only after 2weeks...
So sad she was my part nee on crime...
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mine was an AD not an OD...i'm not trying to discourge people you have got me all wrong on that...what i mean is that yes you can look good which most of the people did but personality and yes luck in that you are lucky enough that the recruiters like you is part of the process. You did say that at the end of the day they are human...reason i'm saying this is because there was this beautiful girl who was dressed so well and in the group actually introduced herself so well that i was sure she would be picked then walah! Shock on everyone,she was unsuccessful and in that group of about 30 they only picked the one who didnt make the reach test and she was 31...sorry mari if it sounded bad but i was just puting out my observations...i phrased it wrong when i said all luck but it plays a big part...sorry for the miscommunication..
To everyone going to an AD please hope you havent got me wrong...prepare,ask where you are not sure,google and be confident...i am definately going to try again.

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Miss B,

The sooner you learn that there is no such thing as a discrimination law in the Middle East the easier it will be for you!

EK want what they want, nothing will change that and if you complain that you are being discrimated against, they will move on to the next person, simple.

Like it or not, how you look and the image you project (whether it is 'you' or not) plays a HUGE part in the process. Took me a few years to figure that one out And I wondered why I wasn't successful.

As Mari says, tattoos not a problem if not visible in uniform. However, I have heard talk that tattoos for ladies on the ankle/feet/lower leg may soon become unacceptable as they are thinking of removing trousers from the uniform. (Only a rumour though at this stage I think.... Mari?? Heard anything???)
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Are they particularly meticulous about the teeth? (Emirates & others) the problem with my teeth is that it has a metallic structure that fills the small gaps in between. (I think it is called metal jacket, and fills 4 small gaps) and I have it since my first year in high school.
I have gone through 2 CV drop off already but unfortunately didn’t make to the OD/AD yet.
One more thing I am turning 30 this month, will I still stand a chance? Thanks for the help. The site is very informative. Keep it up!
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Mari and everyone else:

Thank you for your feedback and encouranging words

Not very certain of where I went wrong but I've accepted it (after way too long trying to analyse every moment of the FI and being miserable) and I am very happy to have reached so far in this.. I will take it as a learning step and improve on it.
At least this time around I have more information and know what to expect or what is expected of me and will try to leave no stone unturned
We all learn from experience (sometimes from our own and sometimes through others') Now I am more aware and informed on almost everything that I had no idea about previously. So thank you all once again..


Mari:
Wow...I can't believe that! The recruiters seriously did that??
But I'm glad that she didn't give up...kudos to her and for where she is at in life now


W
e all go through that questioning phase after being unsuccessful of what we did wrong and why we didn't make it through. But after the emotions settle down it makes you want to go for it again all the more.. well for me it does!! So although it's still in the distant future I've started preparing for my 3rd attempt...I don't think I'm ready to give up just yet either.

I'm not very religious but I do believe that everything happens for a reason. A close friend of mine told me something that I thought I'd share with you all:

"maybe..just maybe..there is something else that you have to go out and achieve..something you wouldn't have been able to do if you had received that call."

I just accept that the timimg wasn't right for me... besides life's too short to dwell on what you didn't accomplish but dwell rather on those things that have yet to achieve!!!


Take care everyone,
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Old 2nd Aug 2010, 11:33
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Final Interview Bournemouth

Hello everyone!! I have just attended the final interview in Bournemouth.If anyone of the selected people who were today in the FI are reading this, contact me! and we can be in touch to talk about the results It`s going to be hard to wait now for 4-6 weeks!! I am pretty happy with my FI and I think the lady was quite happy with it as well, but you never know after hearing some of the posts ...

The best of the luck for everyone who is waiting or is going to attend any OD!!!

By the way, I agree with Mari! In my opinion, it is not just about luck, is about having the personality and the appearance they are looking for
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no trousers in the future?

Hi LittleHat,

how's life?

Yes, I also heard the rumour about it. As long as it's not official, there is nothing to confirm. I doubt it was true but everything is possible...
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Mari And Hopefulke

I totally agree with hopefulke its all about luck nothing when it comes to ADs nothing more or less.was also in Nairobi and did not make it but with my experience that my conclusion.

In June i had an AD in Entebbe and the girls that got picked had no make up,where putting on a skirt and blouse,one had a very large blue suit she looked like a mummy yet she was young so basically for the AD just be naturally they do not care about appearance on the AD they just want to assess you and appearance comes in during the FI.

that's what i think.Hopefulke i heard emirates comes to Nairobi every 4months so i guess they will be back in December how true is that?
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They were here in April before this one so it might be true but didnt they write that you can reapply in six months..?! Are you back home?
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yes am back home.thats what they said but i got an invite before the six months elapsed so i will keep trying the struggle continues for the greater horizons.
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No Glasses and Photos

Hi and thank you for the info so far to many of you.

I have my OD coming up on Aug 7 and am panicking about the photo. Normally I wear glasses but only two days ago found the medical requirements where it states clearly that glasses are not allowed and contacts must be used. I have no problem switching to contacts but I already had my professional photos taken WITH glasses and there is not enough time to get a new set done without them. Does anyone have suggestions on what I can do? Will there be any opportunity to explain to the recruiters that I can wear contacts?

Thank you!
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