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Hey,
I'm back Poland, after AD in Tallinn, the whole way back home (12 hours by car) I was thinking what mistakes I did in our/my English test? maybe my essays were a disaster? I prepared and expected such topics, but...???
Don't know?
But could one person read 80x2 essays, check our English test and see our cvs in 35 minutes? Maybe?
This is my short conclusion.
Yes, of course I'm sad, disappointed...
The lady was really, really nice and I still believe that Etihad is a professional airway but the whole AD was unclear, unfortunately.
Tallinn is really nice city, I recommend it to all of You.
Congratulation for those who were chosen! Go GUNA, number 80!!!
Anyway it is my lesson for future, I'm glad I went for an AD, I'll be back:0
Hope to stay in touch with U.
See You aboard
Magdalena
I'm back Poland, after AD in Tallinn, the whole way back home (12 hours by car) I was thinking what mistakes I did in our/my English test? maybe my essays were a disaster? I prepared and expected such topics, but...???
Don't know?
But could one person read 80x2 essays, check our English test and see our cvs in 35 minutes? Maybe?
This is my short conclusion.
Yes, of course I'm sad, disappointed...
The lady was really, really nice and I still believe that Etihad is a professional airway but the whole AD was unclear, unfortunately.
Tallinn is really nice city, I recommend it to all of You.
Congratulation for those who were chosen! Go GUNA, number 80!!!
Anyway it is my lesson for future, I'm glad I went for an AD, I'll be back:0
Hope to stay in touch with U.
See You aboard
Magdalena
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I also just arrived home, with such a cool flight.Yeah we shall meet again . Hopefully this time it will be in Lithuania or somewhere where travelling will be required. Lets hope all will be good.
But that was a new picture of this assessment and it is nice for all guys here to know about it so that they don't remain
when one observer reads over 170 handwritten pages in 30 minutes .
Everything looked professional and well trusted - but when you come to those cuts, our day started late but i think it was the earliest ended day of all ADs. I can not wait to hear how many remained after 1630.
I will Miss ETIHAD - especially in its rule that forbid people to have a partners. Isn't that economical... i loved that.
Someone asked us to use names when calling the assessors, but our assessor did not introduce her name to us, only the name of the late lady - or do i remeber wrong?-Holdudvar!! remember any name introductin for herself?
Six months look long but hope those already in, will pray for us.
Magdalen - you did not look for me... too bad and the e mail i sent did not come for some reasons. May be we talked but we did not know who was who
Lets keep Positive and Etihad still Wins our minds Yeaaah
JJ'my
Holdudvar--- sent you pm
But that was a new picture of this assessment and it is nice for all guys here to know about it so that they don't remain
when one observer reads over 170 handwritten pages in 30 minutes .Everything looked professional and well trusted - but when you come to those cuts, our day started late but i think it was the earliest ended day of all ADs. I can not wait to hear how many remained after 1630.
I will Miss ETIHAD - especially in its rule that forbid people to have a partners. Isn't that economical...
i loved that.Someone asked us to use names when calling the assessors, but our assessor did not introduce her name to us, only the name of the late lady - or do i remeber wrong?-Holdudvar!! remember any name introductin for herself?
Six months look long but hope those already in, will pray for us.
Magdalen - you did not look for me... too bad and the e mail i sent did not come for some reasons. May be we talked but we did not know who was who
Lets keep Positive and Etihad still Wins our minds Yeaaah
JJ'my
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Thanks for your reply, I don't want to argue with you guys, let's assume your all right and the first stage selection process is not a lottery at all (in fact, that would be really good news!) But could you please answer what you think about the following things:
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Thanks for your reply, I don't want to argue with you guys, let's assume your all right and the first stage selection process is not a lottery at all (in fact, that would be really good news!) But could you please answer what you think about the following things:
- it's Etihad's favourite phrase that there is no competition at all between all invited persons as if we all suit they can take all of us - BUT, just after the english test, before deliberating recruiter's desicion we all found 15 plastic bags outside the room with lunch already prepared for the next stage participants? Yes, there was no paid by recruiters lunch this time - crisis!! ( In fact everyone understood those food bags were for all of us to share and ate it all away, the lady came out of her room and got totally shocked!)
- do you think it is possible to control 80+ english grammar tests and 80 * 2+ essays in 30-35 minutes? If it is not and not everybody's tests were checked why on earth did we have to write it and just waste the time (40 minutes) if the decision has been already made (look above)
- in Etihad's presentation it clearly states that cabin crew experience and knowledge of several foreign languages is a good advantage - there were at least 15 cabin crew, some of them from Gulf Air with similar standards - if it is an advantage why to kick them out first without even looking at them if what you seek are motivated professional people with experience?
- having read all of above there's one last request: what in your mind are the real standards for Etihad people and what do they pay attention for, if after all it is not the cabin crew experience, the knowledge of languages, the good looking, the good moderate manners while giving away the application form and cv - God, I am really confused!!
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hahahah . Do not be comfused. I was for the whole night in my hotel in Tallin and later i had to give myself a ++, that i was called. Be the same.
you should know that those guys from Finland went to the pre- assessment, and then there - but they are the largest group affected by cut. so...
I feel for the lady since she knew that she could do what she did and that's why "sorry but" and all excuses words were used.
Etihad standards of the cabin crew is cool. I have gone with that Flight sometimes; but there is nothing unique from them that can lead to this discussion here - so unfortunatelly. Or that can differentiate them with Emirates or Qatar or even Qantas. Nop
They are human like ourselves and behave in the same line like ourselves, the difference is Lucky that got them there. At the line for CV pesentation, before me there was a guy with black and white photo, and later in the break someone explained that she did not see the question 2 on essay I dont know which country she was..........suprise suprise, they were there---in top 15. Its nice, isn't that said that a flight attendant is to be attentive in details and responsive to different issues... well i may not know that.
So mamen---- BE HAPPY, There is no way that this decision will change. They can do whatever they want since they are empowered. But if this continues in other places - where they let people to travel the company Immage will collapse since it is US who get recommendations from the big guys who are the frequent fliers - so a little carefulness there.
AGAIN - I MISS ETIHAD
. Do not be comfused. I was for the whole night in my hotel in Tallin and later i had to give myself a ++, that i was called. Be the same.you should know that those guys from Finland went to the pre- assessment, and then there - but they are the largest group affected by cut. so...
I feel for the lady since she knew that she could do what she did and that's why "sorry but" and all excuses words were used.
Etihad standards of the cabin crew is cool. I have gone with that Flight sometimes; but there is nothing unique from them that can lead to this discussion here - so unfortunatelly. Or that can differentiate them with Emirates or Qatar or even Qantas. Nop
They are human like ourselves and behave in the same line like ourselves, the difference is Lucky that got them there. At the line for CV pesentation, before me there was a guy with black and white photo, and later in the break someone explained that she did not see the question 2 on essay I dont know which country she was..........suprise suprise, they were there
---in top 15. Its nice, isn't that said that a flight attendant is to be attentive in details and responsive to different issues... well i may not know that.So mamen---- BE HAPPY, There is no way that this decision will change. They can do whatever they want since they are empowered. But if this continues in other places - where they let people to travel the company Immage will collapse since it is US who get recommendations from the big guys who are the frequent fliers - so a little carefulness there.
AGAIN - I MISS ETIHAD
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Do not misunderstand me - I was not even disappointed, I kind of expected that, on the contrary, we were laughing all the way home, what I personally understood is that they do not really care who would be selected and who would be left behind the door despite all the great qualities he/she may possess. As you said, they are indeed empowered to decide nohow and there is no higher institution control above them, so they are free to do whatever they like. And, considering it is not the recruiter's first assessment day they are surely exhausted of seeing the infinite papers of cv's, application forms, same smyling faces every day - so they just don't bother - all they need is to cut down the crowd, here I guess there are some criterias - 90 people to 15, 75 to 10, 200 to 31 etc
P.S. Were you one of two finnish guys in black suits?
Do not misunderstand me - I was not even disappointed, I kind of expected that, on the contrary, we were laughing all the way home, what I personally understood is that they do not really care who would be selected and who would be left behind the door despite all the great qualities he/she may possess. As you said, they are indeed empowered to decide nohow and there is no higher institution control above them, so they are free to do whatever they like. And, considering it is not the recruiter's first assessment day they are surely exhausted of seeing the infinite papers of cv's, application forms, same smyling faces every day - so they just don't bother - all they need is to cut down the crowd, here I guess there are some criterias - 90 people to 15, 75 to 10, 200 to 31 etc P.S. Were you one of two finnish guys in black suits?
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EA_cabincrew in response to some of the things you were asking about:
-They only provide lunch for people who make it past a certain point, so I can understand that she was shocked that you guys ate the food! I'm surprised that you guys thought it was okay to help yourselves to it! They do say that if everybody is good enough, they can take everyone. But experience would tell them that there is rarely a situation when everybody is what they are looking for and will get through. This is why they don't have enough lunch for everyone, because history would show that they generally get rid of half the people before lunch is served (because the applicants do not fit their requirements).
-No of course she couldn't have read every single word of every english test, but I guarantee that didn't happen at our assesment day either when they had 3 assesors. She is an experienced recruiter and would have been able to assess the english tests in a manner she saw fit. eg. Picking one section of the test to mark and comparing everyones results from the one section. You had to do the whole test, because this is the process everyone follows.
-At our assesment day they said that customer service experience was necessary, and that languages/FA experience was an advantage. They don't automatically take you if you have those 'extras', because there may be more suitable people with neither of those things.
-The difficulty in trying to understand what they are looking for, is that none of us really know because they are unable to give us feedback. But you just have to trust that they know what they are looking for, even if you don't agree. It is their job after all, so they do know what they are doing.
The fact that you are being so negative about the whole experience, perhaps suggests that you aren't the right person for the job. There are lots of people that don't get through that aren't being negative or rude about it. You are presuming that the people that did get through, only made it because they were lucky. I'm sorry if you think I'm being harsh, but you have come on here and blamed everyone but yourself for not getting through.
Sorry for the super long post!!
-They only provide lunch for people who make it past a certain point, so I can understand that she was shocked that you guys ate the food! I'm surprised that you guys thought it was okay to help yourselves to it! They do say that if everybody is good enough, they can take everyone. But experience would tell them that there is rarely a situation when everybody is what they are looking for and will get through. This is why they don't have enough lunch for everyone, because history would show that they generally get rid of half the people before lunch is served (because the applicants do not fit their requirements).
-No of course she couldn't have read every single word of every english test, but I guarantee that didn't happen at our assesment day either when they had 3 assesors. She is an experienced recruiter and would have been able to assess the english tests in a manner she saw fit. eg. Picking one section of the test to mark and comparing everyones results from the one section. You had to do the whole test, because this is the process everyone follows.
-At our assesment day they said that customer service experience was necessary, and that languages/FA experience was an advantage. They don't automatically take you if you have those 'extras', because there may be more suitable people with neither of those things.
-The difficulty in trying to understand what they are looking for, is that none of us really know because they are unable to give us feedback. But you just have to trust that they know what they are looking for, even if you don't agree. It is their job after all, so they do know what they are doing.
The fact that you are being so negative about the whole experience, perhaps suggests that you aren't the right person for the job. There are lots of people that don't get through that aren't being negative or rude about it. You are presuming that the people that did get through, only made it because they were lucky. I'm sorry if you think I'm being harsh, but you have come on here and blamed everyone but yourself for not getting through.
Sorry for the super long post!!
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Dear Skywards,
I believe that none of us thinks that those who made it earlier (I mean previous AD) made it just because of luck. Maybe those who made it in Tallinn are also the best for the job.We wanted just let Everybody know about our totally different AD experience.
In case of the bags with lunch When I get out from the room, and I was one of the latest I just notice the sign:
Cabin Crew recruiters please help yourself.
I didn't know there were just 15 bags
, and yes we did not take it, wasn't enough but I though people took two or sth so she was shocked probably not because people already started to eat but because the hotel workers put them to fast, before even the first selection ended
So once again I do believe that U weren't chosen just because of luck, but U are great for the job. I'm really sorry If U felt so.
I'm happy I went to Tallinn, it's a great experience and I will try again, hopefully we're gonna work together
Tallinn is worth to see guys
Magdalena
I believe that none of us thinks that those who made it earlier (I mean previous AD) made it just because of luck. Maybe those who made it in Tallinn are also the best for the job.We wanted just let Everybody know about our totally different AD experience.
In case of the bags with lunch
When I get out from the room, and I was one of the latest I just notice the sign:Cabin Crew recruiters please help yourself.
I didn't know there were just 15 bags
, and yes we did not take it, wasn't enough but I though people took two or sth so she was shocked probably not because people already started to eat but because the hotel workers put them to fast, before even the first selection endedSo once again I do believe that U weren't chosen just because of luck, but U are great for the job. I'm really sorry If U felt so.
I'm happy I went to Tallinn, it's a great experience and I will try again, hopefully we're gonna work together
Tallinn is worth to see guys
Magdalena
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Topic Closed :)
Ok guys.
All is good, no more discussions and debates on who is good and who is bad. All who were called for the interview were good guys - all arround the world. The ones who are chosen were the lucky ones or presented themselves much better than others. They will be trained and become excellent for the work.
Tallin was of its own style, and other places had their own experiences too. Sad i did not realise any thing connected to that food in "plastic bags" but good those who ate- if the message was like that - cos it was a right time for lunch.
I dont discuss this anymore but wish the greatest luck to all who made it. Be good ambassadors and expect us for the future - as fellow workers or then travellers in those coral classes.
So, lets be happy - it was just an interview and peoples' opinion
Skywards, a cabin crew never argue like that
[need to be a littl diplomatic for a 5 star airline] so just keep it yourself and wait for the great times to start - You are great .
I miss etihad - again
Cheers and thanks all for the info
All is good, no more discussions and debates on who is good and who is bad. All who were called for the interview were good guys - all arround the world. The ones who are chosen were the lucky ones or presented themselves much better than others. They will be trained and become excellent for the work.
Tallin was of its own style, and other places had their own experiences too. Sad i did not realise any thing connected to that food in "plastic bags" but good those who ate- if the message was like that - cos it was a right time for lunch.
I dont discuss this anymore but wish the greatest luck to all who made it. Be good ambassadors and expect us for the future - as fellow workers or then travellers in those coral classes.
So, lets be happy - it was just an interview and peoples' opinion
Skywards, a cabin crew never argue like that
[need to be a littl diplomatic for a 5 star airline] so just keep it yourself and wait for the great times to start - You are great .I miss etihad - again
Cheers and thanks all for the info
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Problems filling the on line application with Etihad!!!
Hi guys,
I would be really grateful if any of you could let me know whether your found the same problem as me filling the on line application for Etihad.
Is driving me crazy! The problem is I'm not able to enter language or attached pictures as nothing comes up when I press select, just select once again and all the time!
Is there a problem with their web page? Could it be?
Opening days are getting closer and I need to summit my application!!
What can I do??
Thank you all.
I would be really grateful if any of you could let me know whether your found the same problem as me filling the on line application for Etihad.
Is driving me crazy! The problem is I'm not able to enter language or attached pictures as nothing comes up when I press select, just select once again and all the time!
Is there a problem with their web page? Could it be?
Opening days are getting closer and I need to summit my application!!
What can I do??
Thank you all.
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Congratulations
First of all, congratulations! I'm so gelous of you, ha, ha
I'm trying to get invited to the same opening day in London but I have found a problem. I cannot complete my on line application because the page doesn't allowed me to enter language or even attached pictures and is driving me insane.
Can you please tell me whether you had any kind of problems?
I hope is not too late to send the application!
Good luck!
I'm trying to get invited to the same opening day in London but I have found a problem. I cannot complete my on line application because the page doesn't allowed me to enter language or even attached pictures and is driving me insane.
Can you please tell me whether you had any kind of problems?
I hope is not too late to send the application!
Good luck!
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Definatelly and i have added you in the Msn.
Your plan was unfortunatelly dropped - at least you could not use YOU instead of the name.
i just wonder what could happen if all Tallin people could know this site - probably that could be the end of this forum - cos people were like Uph, whats here again after being told that everything was done - hahaha
Your plan was unfortunatelly dropped - at least you could not use YOU instead of the name.
i just wonder what could happen if all Tallin people could know this site - probably that could be the end of this forum -
cos people were like Uph, whats here again after being told that everything was done - hahaha
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Jeremys_mleu ????
I was replying to the post from EA_cabincrew which asked me specifically to "please answer". I wasn't arguing I was answering the questions they posed.
As for that comment, I am just as entitled to my opinions as you are. I didn't ask you to keep your comments to yourself, so please show the same respect. The point of having these forums is to have discussions. Thanks for your advice on what makes good cabin crew, clearly you are an expert. I somehow managed to get through with Etihad, so I think I understand what they are looking for.
I was replying to the post from EA_cabincrew which asked me specifically to "please answer". I wasn't arguing I was answering the questions they posed.
Skywards, a cabin crew never argue like that [need to be a littl diplomatic for a 5 star airline
] so just keep it yourself and wait for the great times to start - You are great .
[need to be a littl diplomatic for a 5 star airline] so just keep it yourself and wait for the great times to start - You are great .
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Cool sky - Lets have happines here now.. Again You are great and will make it cool .. Right. I respect all of the opinions here however, i just felt that its better to close this throwing of words and ahead to the new topics, cos i think i had realised dssapointments that will never end from the other sie.
Yes, i have little expertise with diplomacy - but not CC. Hopefully one day i will make it there and implment my new competencies
So Peace
Yes, i have little expertise with diplomacy - but not CC. Hopefully one day i will make it there and implment my new competencies
So Peace
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There is some good points made in the last few posts. I am boggled by the critiea they use to pick the staff. (This is from someone who has got in!) I just don't get what they are looking for..at all. Once out there if i ever meet a recruiter on a social setting i intend to pick some brains indeed!
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I think its about as much what they are 'not' looking for as what they'are' looking for. Probably the recruiters find it easier to deselect candidates for things rather than try and find a 'perfect candidate' if that makes sense. Fortunatley i do think there is a happy medium to fit into. If you are very presentable, speak english well and clearly and you can participate in a group discussion by contributing but not offending or controlling the conversation you will be fine. Also small things like writing clearly and neatly in the written exams goes a long way to saying a lot about you as a person.
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Etihad is totally different hence why i turned down Qatar and am now waiting for Etihad. A few differences are:
No service charge with Etihad
Cabin Crew bags are free
Bonus at the end of year
Basic wage rises ever year
Career prospects are better with Etihad
Personally i just felt i would be tied in with Qatar. The small rules do not bother me but having to pay to work for Qatar for a full 2 yrs, that does! Also having to ask permission to leave Doha limits what you can do on your time off. Another issue for me was its difficult to leave. Imagine if you hated it after 7 months but you didn't have the money you owe them to pay them back? How are you going to leave because you have to ask permission to leave Doha and this is not going to be granted because you owe money to Qatar Airways! Just one situation to consider because 3 yrs is a long time to be somewhere you really don't like.
No service charge with Etihad
Cabin Crew bags are free
Bonus at the end of year
Basic wage rises ever year
Career prospects are better with Etihad
Personally i just felt i would be tied in with Qatar. The small rules do not bother me but having to pay to work for Qatar for a full 2 yrs, that does! Also having to ask permission to leave Doha limits what you can do on your time off. Another issue for me was its difficult to leave. Imagine if you hated it after 7 months but you didn't have the money you owe them to pay them back? How are you going to leave because you have to ask permission to leave Doha and this is not going to be granted because you owe money to Qatar Airways! Just one situation to consider because 3 yrs is a long time to be somewhere you really don't like.