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The mind boggels tho...
... and i do apologize for the thread hijack guys but i do have to ask the FR No1 Hater, lowcostdolly:
You keep mentioning "the number of times i rescued FR pax" stranded in such and such airport. Please do tell, how exactly have you rescued these pax?
I'm sorry, i wasn't aware of the fact that EasyJet and Ryanair have an agreement that goes along the lines of "ok, you go tech or whatever, i'll pick up the passengers and take them to their destination".
Let's say FR passengers were stranded in AGP (Malaga - totally random choice). Are you telling me that EZY just gave tickets away to the "stranded" pax for free? Are you telling me that they just went to the ticket desk and complained to the EZY staff who issued them with FREE tickets to their destination?
No, that would never happen. This is not a "rescue" mission as you'd like people to believe, it could (could being the operative word - and we are talking a hypothetical scenario) be classed as adding insult to injury. Making money out of people's misery. Selling tickets at full price or even escalated price. Because that's exactly what would happen should the above scenario come true.
So, again i ask, how exactly did you rescue these people?
You keep mentioning "the number of times i rescued FR pax" stranded in such and such airport. Please do tell, how exactly have you rescued these pax?
I'm sorry, i wasn't aware of the fact that EasyJet and Ryanair have an agreement that goes along the lines of "ok, you go tech or whatever, i'll pick up the passengers and take them to their destination".
Let's say FR passengers were stranded in AGP (Malaga - totally random choice). Are you telling me that EZY just gave tickets away to the "stranded" pax for free? Are you telling me that they just went to the ticket desk and complained to the EZY staff who issued them with FREE tickets to their destination?
No, that would never happen. This is not a "rescue" mission as you'd like people to believe, it could (could being the operative word - and we are talking a hypothetical scenario) be classed as adding insult to injury. Making money out of people's misery. Selling tickets at full price or even escalated price. Because that's exactly what would happen should the above scenario come true.
So, again i ask, how exactly did you rescue these people?
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Lowcostdolly and Flygirl84,
First of all, I have to say that I know diddly squat about flying for/applying to Ryanair. However, as has been pointed out here, this is a thread for people who want to apply to work for Ryanair needing their questions answered. If you have a gripe about how the airline treated you as a passenger, then write to the airline, or put it in the SLF section on this board.
If you have a gripe about someone's posting, then deal with it in an adult manner. This means being polite and civilised, not using patronising language and such-like.
Now, before I get told off for being head mistress, I'll let people get back on topic. Which, to remind you, is about getting information about a specific airline to apply for a job as Cabin Crew.
Cheers,
Gg
First of all, I have to say that I know diddly squat about flying for/applying to Ryanair. However, as has been pointed out here, this is a thread for people who want to apply to work for Ryanair needing their questions answered. If you have a gripe about how the airline treated you as a passenger, then write to the airline, or put it in the SLF section on this board.
If you have a gripe about someone's posting, then deal with it in an adult manner. This means being polite and civilised, not using patronising language and such-like.
Now, before I get told off for being head mistress, I'll let people get back on topic. Which, to remind you, is about getting information about a specific airline to apply for a job as Cabin Crew.
Cheers,
Gg
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Glamgirl Thank you for being the adult post 
Just gave ATS a taste of how it feels to be on the end of her patronising posts....seems she didn't like it!! I feel a FR newbie/prospective newbie would like it even less. Also GlamGirl I have been on the end of one of these posts in the past re safety
In fact if that is how an FR Pu treats staff in the cabin whatever their rank....
ATS please make up your mind sweetheart. Last time you didn't agree with me I was a "jurno" your words. Now I'm another poster in disguise???
As I said to you last time whatever you wish to discuss my PM box is open to you. On the safety issues at that time you have been really silent....not one reply even!!
Perhaps you can do better with CRM?? Or if you just wish to continue to throw your toys out of your pram then my PM box is open to you....
Just don't bully the newbie's/prospective newbie's......not a good look for FR is it darlin
For all you FR Wannabe's.....read the recruitment company's T&C's. Then read the posts on these forums. Read other research as well and make up your own minds.
Just gave ATS a taste of how it feels to be on the end of her patronising posts....seems she didn't like it!! I feel a FR newbie/prospective newbie would like it even less. Also GlamGirl I have been on the end of one of these posts in the past re safety
In fact if that is how an FR Pu treats staff in the cabin whatever their rank....
ATS please make up your mind sweetheart. Last time you didn't agree with me I was a "jurno" your words. Now I'm another poster in disguise???
As I said to you last time whatever you wish to discuss my PM box is open to you. On the safety issues at that time you have been really silent....not one reply even!!
Perhaps you can do better with CRM?? Or if you just wish to continue to throw your toys out of your pram then my PM box is open to you....
Just don't bully the newbie's/prospective newbie's......not a good look for FR is it darlin
For all you FR Wannabe's.....read the recruitment company's T&C's. Then read the posts on these forums. Read other research as well and make up your own minds.
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lowcostdolly,
You do seem to have a bit of a problem with anyone that dares to disagree with your opinions. From what I can see, one poster has come into a wannabe thread and absolutely ripped apart the airline that people are asking about, with nothing more than a passenger perspective to go by. She/he has even gone so far as to suggest that safety is compromised and that the crew are thieves. I suspect that if someone were to suggest the same of your airline, you would expect a right to reply, just as ATS has done.
You know nothing about ATS, yet you feel the right to stick your oar in and accuse her of poor CRM and safety skills. Trust me, you couldn't be further from the truth. I suggest that, in future, you stay out of things you know nothing about and stick to commenting on those things that you do have some knowledge on. As for accusing her of bullying newbies/wannabes, how exactly do you consider the following as bullying?
From what I see, that is damn good advice for those thinking of applying to any airline!
And finally, before you start accusing others of being patronising, may I suggest you take a look at your own posts. (Hmmm...Deja vu!)
Sorry to the all the wannabes that are having to witness this rather unsavioury spat, ironically, with two people that don't work for FR and therefore have no inside knowledge to give to you, attacking the one person that does! However, if you are considering working for this airline, maybe it is good that you get to see the snobbery that exists, even from other low cost operators. Sad but true.
As ATS says, you could love it, or you could hate it and that goes for flying in general. But there's only one way to find out!
Jsl
You do seem to have a bit of a problem with anyone that dares to disagree with your opinions. From what I can see, one poster has come into a wannabe thread and absolutely ripped apart the airline that people are asking about, with nothing more than a passenger perspective to go by. She/he has even gone so far as to suggest that safety is compromised and that the crew are thieves. I suspect that if someone were to suggest the same of your airline, you would expect a right to reply, just as ATS has done.
You know nothing about ATS, yet you feel the right to stick your oar in and accuse her of poor CRM and safety skills. Trust me, you couldn't be further from the truth. I suggest that, in future, you stay out of things you know nothing about and stick to commenting on those things that you do have some knowledge on. As for accusing her of bullying newbies/wannabes, how exactly do you consider the following as bullying?
Originally Posted by Abusing The Skys
techno&others.
If you want to go for a job with FR, then go for it. But do your research first and not based on anonymous internet forum comments.
It's hard work, bloody hard and demanding. Plus, every so often, you'll come across the "flygirl85" 's of this world... But once you enter that day to day routine it'll all get better.
You might love the job, you might hate it. You might take to it like a duck to water or you might quit the very first day on line. Thing is, you'll never know until you've actually started the job. It's a risk, yes, but you'll never know the outcome of your decision unless you try it.
I took the risk over 4 years ago and i'm still here...
Good luck!
If you want to go for a job with FR, then go for it. But do your research first and not based on anonymous internet forum comments.
It's hard work, bloody hard and demanding. Plus, every so often, you'll come across the "flygirl85" 's of this world... But once you enter that day to day routine it'll all get better.
You might love the job, you might hate it. You might take to it like a duck to water or you might quit the very first day on line. Thing is, you'll never know until you've actually started the job. It's a risk, yes, but you'll never know the outcome of your decision unless you try it.
I took the risk over 4 years ago and i'm still here...
Good luck!
And finally, before you start accusing others of being patronising, may I suggest you take a look at your own posts. (Hmmm...Deja vu!)
Sorry to the all the wannabes that are having to witness this rather unsavioury spat, ironically, with two people that don't work for FR and therefore have no inside knowledge to give to you, attacking the one person that does! However, if you are considering working for this airline, maybe it is good that you get to see the snobbery that exists, even from other low cost operators. Sad but true.
As ATS says, you could love it, or you could hate it and that goes for flying in general. But there's only one way to find out!
Jsl
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JSL you are so right. I know nothing about ATS other than what I see on the forums.....where she takes apart anyone who disagrees with her posts/feels strongly about FR whatever the reason.
She can also dish it out but can't take it......clearly evident in her responses to me. I lowered myself to her level with the patronising language on purpose. Not nice is it yet that is exactly how she has addressed me previously and now a prospective newbie. All of a sudden that is now unprofessional....her words!! I know it is, I just wanted her to recognise her own behaviour and the inpact it can have on others
Last time I looked she wasn't the forum moderator either. I'm sure if they felt someone had posted wrongly they would have removed the post?
Clearly you know ATS so you can disagree. You might even know me/I may know you..... who knows?
I also see you have been selective in what you have quoted from her original response......the one constructive piece of advice given to prospective newbie's. The rest of it completly flamed one person and that is bullying IMHO......you of course may choose to disagree. That is your right and I have no problem with that.
As for your apology for the "public spat" read again......it's the second time I have asked ATS to take her questions/opinions into the privacy of my inbox....the silence is deafening!! I now extend the same invitation to you.
Back to the thread topic guys and girls.....for those of you thinking of applying to FR (any airline) read the company/recruitment company hype very carefully. Then do your own research which may include reading posts on these forums and then make up your own minds
She can also dish it out but can't take it......clearly evident in her responses to me. I lowered myself to her level with the patronising language on purpose. Not nice is it yet that is exactly how she has addressed me previously and now a prospective newbie. All of a sudden that is now unprofessional....her words!! I know it is, I just wanted her to recognise her own behaviour and the inpact it can have on others
Last time I looked she wasn't the forum moderator either. I'm sure if they felt someone had posted wrongly they would have removed the post?
Clearly you know ATS so you can disagree. You might even know me/I may know you..... who knows?
I also see you have been selective in what you have quoted from her original response......the one constructive piece of advice given to prospective newbie's. The rest of it completly flamed one person and that is bullying IMHO......you of course may choose to disagree. That is your right and I have no problem with that.
As for your apology for the "public spat" read again......it's the second time I have asked ATS to take her questions/opinions into the privacy of my inbox....the silence is deafening!! I now extend the same invitation to you.
Back to the thread topic guys and girls.....for those of you thinking of applying to FR (any airline) read the company/recruitment company hype very carefully. Then do your own research which may include reading posts on these forums and then make up your own minds
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lowcostdolly, I don't know which airline you work, but I suspect it is easyjet.
All the accusations leveled against FR of robbing people, hidden charges etc simply don't hold water: conversely, I suggest that the easyjet website and booking engine is more akin to robbing and hidden charges than the same FR site!
I digress, this isn't a pissing contest: we are all in the same game and JSL and Glamgirl are feeling the heat over BASSA and BA's spat. The spat could put their jobs on the line and the jobs of many others including support staff and staff from external companies: it is that far reaching.
The winners won't be FR or easy, but maybe Virgin will pick up some pax and bmi might but the bulk will hot foot it to AA or KLM or Air France and once they are gone it will be nigh on impossible to get them back. The jobs of our colleagues will also go, and that is bad karma.
FR have a business model, as easyjet and BA etc do: just because that model doesn't fit with your perception of how things should be, doesn't mean it is wrong, or that it doesn't fit other peoples' perception of how things should be.
We all look at the world through our own eyes, and what makes one of us happy doesn't suit the other: that is what makes the whole experience so interesting. Listening and learning from the experience of others who have been there, seen it, done it, got the T shirt.
I listen to my mate, who is an easy jet captain and think I'm bl00dy lucky to be a Ryanair captain: I did a line check today on a Captain who was, several years ago a seriously senior Virgin 747 Captain but left: he reckons he has the better deal, compared to his former colleagues at VS, now that he is at FR.
Horses for courses, don't let blinkers and vitriol cloud your judgement. You probably have a wealth of experience and information to pass on to wannabes about your company: why not stick to that?
All the accusations leveled against FR of robbing people, hidden charges etc simply don't hold water: conversely, I suggest that the easyjet website and booking engine is more akin to robbing and hidden charges than the same FR site!
I digress, this isn't a pissing contest: we are all in the same game and JSL and Glamgirl are feeling the heat over BASSA and BA's spat. The spat could put their jobs on the line and the jobs of many others including support staff and staff from external companies: it is that far reaching.
The winners won't be FR or easy, but maybe Virgin will pick up some pax and bmi might but the bulk will hot foot it to AA or KLM or Air France and once they are gone it will be nigh on impossible to get them back. The jobs of our colleagues will also go, and that is bad karma.
FR have a business model, as easyjet and BA etc do: just because that model doesn't fit with your perception of how things should be, doesn't mean it is wrong, or that it doesn't fit other peoples' perception of how things should be.
We all look at the world through our own eyes, and what makes one of us happy doesn't suit the other: that is what makes the whole experience so interesting. Listening and learning from the experience of others who have been there, seen it, done it, got the T shirt.
I listen to my mate, who is an easy jet captain and think I'm bl00dy lucky to be a Ryanair captain: I did a line check today on a Captain who was, several years ago a seriously senior Virgin 747 Captain but left: he reckons he has the better deal, compared to his former colleagues at VS, now that he is at FR.
Horses for courses, don't let blinkers and vitriol cloud your judgement. You probably have a wealth of experience and information to pass on to wannabes about your company: why not stick to that?
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Originally Posted by lowcostdolly
Not nice is it yet that is exactly how she has addressed me previously and now a prospective newbie.
Maybe at this point, we should agree to disagree and leave it there.
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Leave it there.....absolutely. However just want to make a personal response here.....
Real Slim Shady.....Can't speak for EZY F/D but at present I wouldn't recomend any CC to work for LoCo....that is EZY/FR or Jet 2. One of the reasons an experienced PU (3 years in loco terms) is considering leaving but in LoCo who cares?? Not our employers certainly as they just want a bum (senior bum) on a CC seat.....
JSL yes the original post was inappropriate for this forum but the poster did not deserve to be publically humiliated by an FR PU.
Public humiliation is tantemount to bullying....end of. In aviation there is no place for bullying....
Anyone disagree with this view??
Real Slim Shady.....Can't speak for EZY F/D but at present I wouldn't recomend any CC to work for LoCo....that is EZY/FR or Jet 2. One of the reasons an experienced PU (3 years in loco terms) is considering leaving but in LoCo who cares?? Not our employers certainly as they just want a bum (senior bum) on a CC seat.....
JSL yes the original post was inappropriate for this forum but the poster did not deserve to be publically humiliated by an FR PU.
Public humiliation is tantemount to bullying....end of. In aviation there is no place for bullying....
Anyone disagree with this view??
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Madrid training
Hi all, I'm new on this forum.
I'm form Italy, so sorry if my english is not always so good.
Last monday I did the interview with Cavok in Madrid. I have the email that they tell me everything is ok and I can do the training.
So the course will start on 19 January 2010, in Madrid.
Someone of you join it??
I'm form Italy, so sorry if my english is not always so good.
Last monday I did the interview with Cavok in Madrid. I have the email that they tell me everything is ok and I can do the training.
So the course will start on 19 January 2010, in Madrid.
Someone of you join it??
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Base Choices
Does anyone have any experience of Ryanair recruitment and/or being sent to random bases? I've an interview for cabin crew in London but am a little concerned with their extremely random bases where they could place me!?
Please message me.
PP
Please message me.
PP
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SALARY!?!?!
Hi guys i ve heard a lot all the forum!! but still anybody said straight how much is the salary!! i should start with Crew link!! can anyone tell me EXACTLY how I will get after tax??
thx a lot
thx a lot
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Anyone lined up to join St. James' Ryanair training course in April? I'm seeking course-mates and somewhere to live nr. STN for the 6 week course!!
Be nice to hear from you.
PP
Be nice to hear from you.
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hi all first post here, i have been invited to an interview with st james next wednesday? i have worked for 3 previous airlines all of which have gone bust 
at the moment i am unsure wether to go for this interview as i have read so many horror stories, the main one is that you dont know were you will be bsed till your first day of training, i ideally would like to be based in edi and wouldnt really settle for anything less. also i heard (maybe false0 that you dont get paind whilst you are in training? is this true?
hope someone can help me
thanks x x
at the moment i am unsure wether to go for this interview as i have read so many horror stories, the main one is that you dont know were you will be bsed till your first day of training, i ideally would like to be based in edi and wouldnt really settle for anything less. also i heard (maybe false0 that you dont get paind whilst you are in training? is this true?hope someone can help me
thanks x x
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Dont Do It!!!
My advice would be to avoid them at all costs!!
It is true, you won't know where you are being based until you have paid your cash and started training.
Can I ask.....are you an ex GSMer????
It is true, you won't know where you are being based until you have paid your cash and started training.
Can I ask.....are you an ex GSMer????
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Try not to hang yourself up on the negatives (as lot of people on this forum seem to highlight) - think of the positives too! Although, in your situation, it's far more of a negative as with FR you have to be free to move to whichever base they require you at, albeit you can change after 12 months to your preferred base choice...or just swap bases with someone on your course should you be successful! EDI is probably a no-go, how about PIK?
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I have succefully been accepted by St James' Management for the April intake, does anyone have any advice on which bases I should ask for (UK preferred - except STN) as a result of most likely being 'needed' there from mid to late May?
Thanks in advance
Thanks in advance
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Can anyone please help me?
Im having a massive dilema, I've got an interview for Ryanair next week but I am not actually sure about going, all the bad thing I've heard, is it really that bad? and I don't want to be too far away from my long term boyfriend so there is only Leeds or Edinburgh I'd want to go to. Am I wasting my time?
Thanks
Im having a massive dilema, I've got an interview for Ryanair next week but I am not actually sure about going, all the bad thing I've heard, is it really that bad? and I don't want to be too far away from my long term boyfriend so there is only Leeds or Edinburgh I'd want to go to. Am I wasting my time?
Thanks
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Hey CabincrewbabyFM1990,
Sadly, sorry to say, you are wasting your time if you only want LBA or EDI. When I went for interview, it seems that FR's policy is to place junior crew where they need them most, whether new or existing bases, its their choice; as I have no ties it's fine with me but if you do, then it's not a good decision.
Apparently EDI is a hard base to get into, along with many others, as it's overly popular and LBA is new therefore they'll need some experienced crew there and it opens in March so most places are probably full there by now given that its only about 6-7 weeks away. You must think long and hard about the decision to take FR - I've given it 2 months now and I'm still going ahead with it 100%!
Hope this helps
PP
Sadly, sorry to say, you are wasting your time if you only want LBA or EDI. When I went for interview, it seems that FR's policy is to place junior crew where they need them most, whether new or existing bases, its their choice; as I have no ties it's fine with me but if you do, then it's not a good decision.
Apparently EDI is a hard base to get into, along with many others, as it's overly popular and LBA is new therefore they'll need some experienced crew there and it opens in March so most places are probably full there by now given that its only about 6-7 weeks away. You must think long and hard about the decision to take FR - I've given it 2 months now and I'm still going ahead with it 100%!
Hope this helps
PP