UK ATPL on a type that doesn’t exist
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this is what I have been looking into. I have spoken to CAE and they have advised that the CL604 that they have is UK certified, and that I can complete a differences course to renew the rating and gain a UK ATPL, however they have quoted me £27k 😂
it’s cheaper to do a new type rating. Anyone have any suggestions for an aircraft type rating in the UK?
it’s cheaper to do a new type rating. Anyone have any suggestions for an aircraft type rating in the UK?
Joined: Dec 2005
Aviation Qualifications: ATPL
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From: Hong Kong
Hello fellow aviators,
I’m in a bit of a sticky situation!
I have an EASA CPL/ME IR with a valid CL65 type rating which I currently fly.
I have a job offer from a major UK airline which requires a UK ATPL to be held prior to starting the TR.
I transferred my EASA licence to the UK However, post Brexit deadline, the UK CAA transferred my ratings to my UK Licence as ‘EXPIRED’.
And in order to renew my CL65 rating and subsequently take a UK ATPL Skills Test, I require a UK approved CL65 simulator with a UK approved CL65 examiner, The issue is, IT DOES NOT EXIST!
Therefore it is impossible for me to obtain a UK ATPL as the CAA simply do not have the facilities for it, based on the type I have…
I have suggested that I complete an EASA ATPL skills test and complete the required paperwork to get that transferred over, however the CAA are still in disagreement.
The UK CAA have turned around and said that the only way to get a UK ATPL is to complete another Type rating course… which is out of the question, and something the new airline in question cannot offer.
Can anyone offer any advice or solution/s?
Many thanks!
I’m in a bit of a sticky situation!
I have an EASA CPL/ME IR with a valid CL65 type rating which I currently fly.
I have a job offer from a major UK airline which requires a UK ATPL to be held prior to starting the TR.
I transferred my EASA licence to the UK However, post Brexit deadline, the UK CAA transferred my ratings to my UK Licence as ‘EXPIRED’.
And in order to renew my CL65 rating and subsequently take a UK ATPL Skills Test, I require a UK approved CL65 simulator with a UK approved CL65 examiner, The issue is, IT DOES NOT EXIST!
Therefore it is impossible for me to obtain a UK ATPL as the CAA simply do not have the facilities for it, based on the type I have…
I have suggested that I complete an EASA ATPL skills test and complete the required paperwork to get that transferred over, however the CAA are still in disagreement.
The UK CAA have turned around and said that the only way to get a UK ATPL is to complete another Type rating course… which is out of the question, and something the new airline in question cannot offer.
Can anyone offer any advice or solution/s?
Many thanks!
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From: uk
Mine was for an A380 type, for which there are 2 UK approved simulators but the operators of the sims do not generally entertain individual clients so access to them was a problem.
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My plan was eventually killed by the UK TRE requirement, so I made another plan. You may well run into the same issue as you might find that all the UK TRE's on the CL65 have pushed off to EASAland and no longer have valid qualifications. In fact, a quick search of the UK CAA data doesn't show any TREs'for the CL65, so getting a sim approval may be a moot point.
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My plan was eventually killed by the UK TRE requirement, so I made another plan. You may well run into the same issue as you might find that all the UK TRE's on the CL65 have pushed off to EASAland and no longer have valid qualifications. In fact, a quick search of the UK CAA data doesn't show any TREs'for the CL65, so getting a sim approval may be a moot point.
With regards to this thread, if you have another unrestricted multi pilot rating on your licence, you could open your UK licence with this rating. If the rating is not current and valid on your licence, you would be required to be assessed for/and receive discretional training at a UK ATO prior to taking the ATPL skill test.
