Aircraft off runway at LPL
 

Lots of local news coming in that a light aircraft has come off the runway at LPL in the last 30 minutes.
Will update further once confirmed

Emergency services are on scene, appears to be a private jet with four on board. No fatalities. Flights are being either cancelled or diverted

C6618/19 notamn
q) egtt/qfalc/iv/nbo/a /000/999/5320n00251w005
a) eggp b) 1912110602 c) 1912111100
e) airport closed due to aircraft accident

9H-VJM Global 6000 VJT850

Stuck in grass. Airport closed until 1100 at least

That's going to be a disappointment for the Blue Air flight currently over the Blackburn area and descending.

That could well be the LFC bosses on their way over from Boston.....just putting two and two together like.

The blue air and the iom flight both diverted to Manchester

Further news.
Two crew
One steward/stewardess
One passenger

LPL!? ahhhh ok, Liverpool.....

Re LFC owner; could be near the mark. The aircraft flew from Newark to Hanscom field, not far out of Boston, then to Liverpool.
https://planefinder.net/flight/VJT85...0.000Z/speed/1

The playback maybe holds a clue - nice radar circuit with a 5nm line up but just a tad high. Speed appears to be under control but still slightly high over the threshold.
Will have to wait for the report but haven't heard of many Global 6000 brake failures :rolleyes:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...yside-50740693 Looks like it's off the side, not the end.

Looks like the high speed turn off to me, perhaps too quick and skidded? It wasn't cold last night here, well no frost on the car in Kirkby which is about 12 miles away

Curiouser and curiouser..........too fast for the RET usually ends up at the upwind side of the curve. Will just have to have patience and see what AAIB comes up with.

According to the link in post#12, the AAIB have OK'd aircraft removal, and a specialist removal team is on site.

https://www.gov.uk/aaib-reports/bomb...9-january-2008

There have been previous moments with GLEX brakes... caused a fair amount of damage this 2008 event.. may of course be totally unrelated to this incident.

And there we are: the passenger was one of LFC owners, Mike Gordon, here or a "regular" meeting. Nothing regular about this one!

For what it's worth, RET (Rapid Exit Taxiways) at larger airports have a design speed (i.e. the maximum speed in which one can turn into them) of 50 knots in the wet.

See section 1.3.17 of the ICAO Aerodrome Design Manual / Part 2 / Taxiways, Aprons and Holding Bays and for which one would assume (based upon similar aircraft types listed that tome) that a Bombardier Global 6000 is likely classified as a 'code 3' type of aircraft with respect to RET design criteria.

Looking at the maps it dies indeed look like the high speed exit.
I note however a Ryanair from AGP, EI-FTD is inbound is she going to be diverted or is this the return to operations

Maltese registered to Vistajet

Looks like the airports open now

Looks like the Rabbit Exit Taxiway does run out of Tarmac just after the curved part...
****** (Switch to Satellite Maps if you get a white screen.)*******

https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/centerx:-2.854/centery:53.334/zoom:19

Accident waiting to happen?
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....004b5a19a5.jpg

Thats ... quite a big aircraft for a single pax ...

You know everyone bangs on about health and safety and risk assessments - the construction of that turnoff is insane - simply unbelievable !!!

I would love to see if that sudden end to the tarmac played a part in this, we would need over head shots though

Not much point in painting a yellow centreline on that RET if pilots don't follow it.

Looks like someone was taking the 'racing line' hugging the RH edge of the RET for a quick right turn down taxiway 'A' to the GA apron :sad:

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....03dc8ce856.jpg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....d10d98c22e.jpg
Photos from social media, the first one apparently taken by Thom O'Donnell.

I'd say that missing pavement is a prime suspect according to the pictures above.

True but if you stay on the centerline its not an issue B744 to C-150...........

I wonder how a self driving Tesla would have handled that particularly brilliant example of lane striping. The notch isn't the worst part, the worst part is the white lane marker that disappears. You know that is going to get somebody.

Looking at the local TV news it's looks like it is a full 30-40 foot to the right (basically a full taxiway width I would say) of the actual taxiway so have they lost control under braking perhaps??

Difficult to conceive why anyone would deliberately taxi way off the yellow line, close to the edge of the tarmac.

Down to two reasons really, in a case like this. First the Air Accident Investigation Branch is likely to have to give its approval before the aircraft or any debris can be moved/removed - if there is any question of a mechanical failure contributing to the event it is likely that permission will not be granted until someone from there has seen the aircraft in situ. Second, there may be a need to get special lifting equipment on site to remove the aircraft without causing further damage. Although most airports will have some aircraft recovery equipment, the reality is that it is primarily suited to moving a wrecked aircraft, chopping it up, if necessary. And if the aircraft is recoverable intact, it will usually need the agreement of insurers before anything is done (but I guess this is true for an obvious write-off too, it's just that the insurance company(ies) will want to ensure that a repairable aircraft is removed in a way that satisfies them and their technical experts).

Maybe so in your view, but it's the way it is. In response to a question, I was simply explaining a couple of the issues that the airport operator will have to deal with, and which will take time.
If there is nowhere else for an inbound aircraft to go, agreed, otherwise it is a business issue.
Well, empirically, it is true that an aircraft with 1 kg more fuel on board is more safe than the same aircraft with 1 kg less, in most situations, anyway. But, then again, the reserves are there for just such an eventuality.
I beg to differ, especially if there is any more damage done to the aircraft - someone will be liable and no-one wants it to be them if it's not necessary. I've been there and done that and I couldn't even get anyone to attach a tractor to the aircraft to tow it off the runway until insurance waivers were signed and in the handling agent base manager's hand. Your profile indicates that you fly something substantial - does your company not have certain expectations of you if you are the commander of one of their aircraft that is disabled in some way on an airport?
That you would have to take up with the AAIB. However, I'm not a lawyer but I think regulation 996/2010, article 13, para 2 is fairly clear.
Not really sure where political correctness comes in, but it's been like this for the last 40+ years since I started in this business.
What we need is Joe Patroni. Still like that film.

A second hand Global 6000 retails at over $50 mil: I doubt very much that a couple of hours worth of diversions come anywhere close to the cost of writing it off...