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67cooper 19th Apr 2015 21:44

That's not true. (citation needed)

Mike Echo 20th Apr 2015 10:25

I can't remember all the flight details but I think (!) with one engine inoperative you are restricted to a crew ferry flight only, No Pax. At one point you had to have had the training but things may have changed since I was last involved.

A "Failed Engine Ferry Kit" may be needed, probably at vast expense, to prevent engine rotation depending on the possible cause of the failure i.e. if the failure affected the mechanical condition. So the fan has to be locked and the HP stage by removing the Start/Gen.

It really isn't that simple if done by the book, but I have seen it done not by the book!:=

The AFM limitations were
VFR
Dry Runway
Antiskid must be operative
Icing Conditions not permitted
Flight over densely populated areas on T/O and Approach not permitted

Crosswind limitation depending on 1 or 3 engine inoperative

Training to be approved by the relevant Authority

I don't remember Dassault permission being required.

Depending on the failure location it was usually easier just to bring someone in!!!

M.E.

jetopa 20th Apr 2015 17:09

You can do initials for the F900 EASy series in Dubai and Burgess Hill (both CAE). I would recommend the latter.

FSI for Falcons only exists in LBG and they are not as bad as they used to be. Quite contrary.

Yogibaboo 20th Apr 2015 19:18


the thing got a bit more momentum at my place, would somebody be able (apart from EMS - thanks btw...) to let me know a BOM for the 2000S and 2000LXS ?

Would be great if Iīd get theses plus what options are installed...

I would highly appreciate any info on them or maybe contact data of people operating these 2...
Our pretty well equipped F2000S BOM is 25001 lbs. We are operating from 3790 ft long runway with no problems with whole continental Europe within range even in a hot summer days. No AOC of course.

Yogi

His dudeness 20th Apr 2015 19:33


they are not as bad as they used to be. Quite contrary
Was there in 98 and 99 and I think 01. On the Citation course/refresher and that was awful. Good if they have gotten better !

@all: thanks a lot. Any info appreciated so donīt stop....

h_d

Yogibaboo 20th Apr 2015 19:35


BTW, were would one train ? The FSI center in LBG always struck me as filthy and not too good (did a C550 there many years ago) and to go to the States - as nice as it is to be there - I`d like to avoid for the hassle with the TSA sh@t).
I have done my F2000 Initial at FSI TEB. Really nice expierence, no problems at all. Don't worry about TSA. A lot has changed. FSI is taking care of all TSA stuff. It took maybe a week to get approval (of course when you have account already set and fingerprints collected).

One of my pilots have done initial at CAE Burgess Hill. No problems as well, but FSI iPad app for training materials makes things a lot easier.

Yogi

TheWrongTrousers 22nd Apr 2015 07:21

Trained in FSI Paris last year on a Falcon recurrent. Was impressed with the quality of instruction. Back to FSI standards without doubt.

Wallace

EatMyShorts! 24th Apr 2015 22:05

I have been training at FSI Paris regularly for the last 6 years and they have become much better, yes. Except for one individual, all the instructors are really good. I did my 2000EASy-initial in Teterboro in 2007 and the instructors were average, with two exceptions (who were much better!). Apparently FSI Teterboro has gotten its act together and have improved, I heard. Haven't been there since 2008 oder 2009.


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