airworthiness certificate
 

....by the rule the airworthiness certificate had to be suspended...

:D :D

After seeing the video my impression of Citation pilots has increased a lot, well done. :ok:

Yes I had a lot of time in N127BU but never flew her into or out of Courchevel :{ and do not fly the aircraft now.

Pace

A strip similar to the one in France

Yes a Citation can do all these things! I have taken a 500 into Thruxton but with no PAX and minimal fuel !
It really depends on what level of risk you are prepared to take and whether you should take risk decisions for your passengers ?

Pace

been to Fairoaks and Bembridge in citations.
I'd love to go to corchevel in one. Going to chambery on sunday in the global..perhaps I should divert....

Hope you got your DGAC Approval (Cat Brief) at Chambery in, for Sunday Tom - looks like forecast is fog ;-)

F/o

We are less than 20 seats so I think the brief has to be on board. Anyway, probably only been there 30 times. Have they moved any of the hills? When did you turn into an aviation nazi anyway!

You vill obey ze rules at all times Herr Tom ;-).....

But....as per conversation, your right...I just looked at the French AIP, and yep, for you, only Article 1 applies ;-)

I got confused....which happens easily ;-)

F/o

What about corchevel? Can I go there?

Yeah, no issues with Corchevel......you'll need to take the disposable GLEX though.....the AAIB will then write a full brief for you, saves time, money and effort all round ;-)

F/o

Right.. Am in the sim in January. I shall do corchevel in the sim and vid it and post it on here. They will only let me do it once as we don't get much mess around time. Let's run a book..

Success is absolutely normal landing, no more than medium braking, park at the top of the hill, and a normal departure.

A Mess is heavy or long landing, resulting in max braking, squeals of derisory laughter from the SFT and other pilot.

Failure is a smegging..

Place your bets gents!

It's simply an experiment. Can an average pilot with limited mountain experience land a global at corchevel and take off again?

I wonder if the visuals for corchevel are in the sim database?

they are in for the Dash-8. Depending on the centre , they can sometimes cross load the terrain. It all depends on the visual technology employed. If you pay , you can have it. In the old days it was a matter of coding, now it is more complicated..

Well, I want to place my bet somewhere between "success" and "a mess".....Definitely want to see the vid, should be interesting ;-)

F/o

I actually think it is do-able in the Global (but only in a life or death situation). Braking power is phenomenal and as for departure.... We often get airborne before the numbers when departing RW24 at Farnborough (at lighter weights) which is about 400m from memory.

A friend of mine successfully completed a landing/take off onto an aircraft carrier in Hong Kong Harbour...in the sim!

Do a Golden Gate Bridge loop in the sim Tom... then land on the bridge :cool:

I've rolled everything I've done a type on in the sim but they never seem too keen on letting me loop with the motion on. I think it runs out of travel to simulate the g. Rolling is a sim day one type rating tradition for me.

Just have to do it for the base check.... That was a "tradition" at Learjet..




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What a great show....Classic