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Squeezebox55 27th Jul 2010 04:55

RJM AVIATION/ AEROVISION, Non Payers!
 
Three Captains, having found themselves subjected to false promises by RJM AVIATION in Chad and their French agent AEROVISION in Toulouse have now found themselves in the position of not having been paid.
Employment contracts are being ignored and attempts at communication have resulted in RJM AVIATION saying "speak to AEROVISION" and AEROVISION saying "speak to RJM AVIATION."
RJM AVIATION have no AOC for their jet operation yet continue to charter the aircraft at every opportunity captained by a French Netjets pilot.
A G00gle search has also provided a similar history with others along with non payment of aircraft.
So please be aware of this illegal charter company, run by convicted criminals that DON'T PAY.

KirkyMS 27th Jul 2010 05:53

Worked for Aerovision on one of their Hawker 850 (F-GVIA) last year, June - October, but paid by a private person who leased the AC. The german Flight OPS we hired made many impossible things possible during that time (really great job!) is still waiting for more than 30000€ as well ...
Since then i got some work offers from Aerovision via my Captain to again fly the Hawker, last one was in NīDjamena.
We refused to do the Job because of the conflict in that region - they raised our every week, but we denied.
Maybe that was a good idea ... thanks for the Info!

Fletner007 27th Jul 2010 14:41

Hi everyone,

Another French brooker company called rapidaero was searching for crew HS900XP based in Chad is that the same business?
Flights to France and Dubai was planned.
They added, on the unemployed pilots French web site.
Rgds

Squeezebox55 28th Jul 2010 07:03

Yes that would be the same. They were talking of a 900XP which would be used for illegal charter for the Nigerian Gov. Utter sharks!

KirkyMS 28th Jul 2010 08:22

Yes, thatīs the Job they offered us - lucky me ...
Hope you get your money, i know what you guys went through to get it :oh:

:mad:

Fletner007 28th Jul 2010 09:09

Does that plane has been sold?
Who is the new owner?
When surfing, I had seen it was for sale, last owner was AIR VIA LTD Bulgaria.
Cheers.

Ripd_Off 28th Jul 2010 13:33

Broken promises
 
The guys down there promise everything will happen tomorrow, but as we all know tomorrow never comes. Unfortunately the lack of available work means someone will always fly for them. If we had a bit of solidarity then these cowboys would have to become legal in their operations. BUT this still doesn't mean you will get paid.

The contracts aren't worth a light.

Ripd_Off 29th Jul 2010 01:10

Also beware, Aeorovision will broker the contract, but after the event will take no part in it, and when it goes t*ts up will walk away from it. I understand one of the pilots was contracted through them, but aerovision walked away from their responsibility whenhe contacted them.

Aerovision have taken their commission, probably not paid, and will be quite happy. I hope they get their just deserts and find RJM have renegaded on the payments. Then they will try to retreive the aircraft and find their pilots are run out of town.

Search African threads to find this is true. T M is the guy to search.

They also have a legal department (ha ha ha) Who are supposed to look into disputes.

I would recommend any threads linking to unemployed French, pilots warn them to avoid these crooks.

If you do go ther get cash (euros) up front.

Squeezebox55 29th Jul 2010 06:11

By TM you mean the convicted criminal Thierry Miallier?

Ripd_Off 3rd Aug 2010 19:27

I understand the guy is not paying you because you were not prepared to fly illegally for him? But there are too many guys who worked for other major players, who are now prepared to work illegally for them. Is the market place that desperate?

Ripd_Off 3rd Aug 2010 19:36

And again a warning DO NOT FLY FLY FOR THEM or Aerovision

franchherky 6th Dec 2014 20:38

Someone has new info about RJM AVIATION?
 
Hi everyone,

Do someone have information about RJM AVIATION?
I've been told they now have Embraer and ATR. They also seem to have won some petroleum contracts.
A friend of a friend told me that they do regular recruitment for King Air and ATR, and they apparently pay for the ticket and hotel during the recruitment sessions.
Are the conditions stated above are still true?
Do someone know a person to contact to have some information?

Flysafe
@

KANELA 18th Jun 2015 13:36

RJM
 
Hi there,
Anyone knows about RJM aviation? After reading the comments above is bit scary, I don't know... Anyone fly for them now? Is it a reliable company?
And about Chad? :oh: thanks

SR75 19th Jun 2015 10:45

RJM
 
don't fly for them... Still not paying anything. Filed a lawsuite against Aerovision, the outcome is still pending. They are not reliable in any way. :=

Denim and leather 20th Jun 2015 06:13

Hi Kanela,


Are going to fly for the Chad government?
Everything seems to be ok at the moment, salaries on time, I heard from another Captain flying there.

franchherky 21st Jul 2015 22:53

Damn it!
SR75 who are you to tell this in public?
What proof do you have to say this?
Other members may tell what happened to them, but you who are you?
We are in 2015 and you say you have proof RJM AVIATION does not pay salaries? Please first be serious, it's benn 3 years I work for them and I'm in charge of the salaries.
Let's talk a bit about those Aerovision pilots who ordered to do line training without passengers!!! They told the training had to be conducted with no passengers on board!
Anyway this story is the past, please keep on saying things like this, our reputation is not based on people like you.

Only thing I can not stand is people say to do not fly for them as they don't know who they are.

Anyway I guess those are the best pilots ever.

franchherky 21st Jul 2015 23:21

And I put my name on it: Romain CAMPIOT.
Try to prove that from 10/2012 this company does not pay salary, it will be a pleasure for me.
You guys just want to destroy the guys who give you jobs.
Try first to know your regulation and after we'll see if you deserve to be paid.
The totalism you put on the companies is unacceptable.

I'm not making friends, I'm making reliable companies. Which now RJM AVIATION is.
Come to Chad and try to prove the contrary...I enven pay for your ticket only for you guys eyes.

Best regards,

happyjack 23rd Jul 2015 09:10

Unfortunately for you the historical reputation that RJM have earned for themselves of not paying has stuck. People remember the bad not the good. If you want to live the dishonest life you have to live with the consequences? A life lesson perhaps?

parafinburner 3rd Aug 2015 17:47

hi
 
Yes always remember if you are South of the 58 Parallel you are on your own
Most of us go to these countries that have nothing but corruption in them yet when this happen people are so stupid as to keep going
Stay in your own Country there are many good jobs about if you go to Africa don't expect t get paid at all and put it down to experience Thanks for this lovely web site to let us show and educate those who are vulnerable

franchherky 4th Aug 2015 23:25

Hi everyone,

Do someone have information about RJM AVIATION?
I've been told they now have Embraer and ATR. They also seem to have won some petroleum contracts.
A friend of a friend told me that they do regular recruitment for King Air and ATR, and they apparently pay for the ticket and hotel during the recruitment sessions.
Are the conditions stated above are still true?
Do someone know a person to contact to have some information?

Flysafe
@


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