Gulfstream Operators UK
 

Does anyone know anything about GV operator in the Midlands good time builder but i hear its a revolving door? is this true? :\

Barge Pole Airways
 

Dont touch them.

glf

think its this one your on about

http://www.pprune.org/biz-jets-ag-fl...ht=gv+coventry

Rude, arrogant, aggressive CP and a revolving door that is powered!
'would rather stick pins in my eyes. :eek:

The revolving door is Rocket powered ..


Keep will away



Regards

GV
 

Thanks for all the feedback best stay away from that one on my year off with NJE, it sounds like a complete and utter mess, no wonder no one stays. I heard 2 pilots were let go in the last 12 months as well today due to the CP ego.

As a NJE employee you'll be a professional corporate pilot and thus will probably have eliminated yourself from consideration by one of the two midlands operators. I understand that all their corporate pilots have gone and they seem now only to recruit from one particular airline.

Hello Rusty, another NJE G5 on the scrapheap/year off here. I've been banging my head against a brick wall with other G5 operators since last September. Nothing doing. I'm resigned to waiting until December. Hope I can remember how to fly.

Hopefully the next year off might be a bit easier. Then again....

Gulfstreamaviator

Please check your pm's

KH

Beware another G5 operator
 

Not in the same league, but Dana Executive in UAE is recruiting G5, (clasic!!!!!!!) , the only rotation there is the door, crews all fired, for no known reason, except after 2 years most leave anyway, its the sand in the eyes.

Seriously, the add on 350 is rose tinted.

If you are offered the post, ask for the salary....they are reluctant to provide details...... also:

Ask for the housing allowance, or accomodation provided.

Ask for the education allowance, not that expensive for the 4 kids.

Ask if the annual return ticket home can be taken as cash.....

Lastly ask for business class flights for an inspection tour for you and your 4 children.

It gets very quiet over the weekend so dont hold your breath.

There is a thread for DANA on Middle East forums.

glf

BIG//40/FL260 is right, Rusty. In fact don't go anywhere near either of the midlands operators if you value your sanity and integrity.

GV Midlands.
 

All good words of advice I guess I will look in another direction, I spoke with a former pilot recently and he thinks the man needs to see a doctor and have some medicine. its a very odd operation indeed and the CP is a total control freak by the sounds of things, no wonder no one stays? I hear he is now pursuing 2 latest victims in the courts for the training bond. :)

I bet you're glad you asked now Rusty Trombone. Sounds like some of these guys know what they're talking about. :suspect:

NOW LISTEN HERE YOUTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

How many have heard that before! LOL

GV
 

I have heard that and also whats all this about the GV being a .80 and FL400 max and 58N Standard routing and carrier type landings.

"this is typical! I knew this would happen!!!!! arrogant little ****!!!! when Oxxxe(son) and I are flying it is like a well oiled machine!!!! working so hard, like a lathe, daddys little soldier!!!!!"

Is that the op your on about? enjoy. great flying and experience if you can survive but no one does

GV
 

Its all about attitudes I dont know whats wrong with people in their 30s and 40s. Its not a flying club and are you one of those farnborough spotty nosed brat pack? if you have a double barrel name and smoke its a big NO NO NO
This was during the telephone interview? the man needs to be assigned a ward and a straight jacket.

Is jackie advertising this job now
 

If so I hope she had a strong back.......

Rusty Trombones post was most interesting, and so accurate.

glf

GV position
 

This was the link I was sent from recruiter I called her back and told her now not interested and basically withdraw my application.
They are chasing 2 pilots he ran off recently for their training bonds, one is in court for bullying and the other for non payment of bond. DO YOUR HOMEWORK Before you become another vulture to the prey of a GV rating.
His last name says it all, I bumped him to him in LSGG recently and what a total freak.
Total Pilots whom have left in 7 years =8 one only lasting 4 weeks and 3 days?
:E

Morse code WTF
 

I suppose practical knowledge of drift sight is mandatory, too.

glf

I worked it out a while back and over a 2 year period it was a new one every 4 months and thats not including the Amercian freelancers he used to cover the aircraft when short. Those were the days!!!

GV position
 

I have given up on this operation after hearing that the Chief Pilot will type you and then bond you? make your life hell and then find a way to terminate your employment because he does not like you or his son has thrown his teddy bear crockodilly pigs out of the pram.

After discussing this in detail with former pilots 2 of them were in the courts have left me to say no to his offer of employment.

No GV Job or Type Rating is worth the punishment you will endure from this individual was stated by some nice guy I spoke to whom is currently on a Gag order whom was put on the scrap heap after the CP had had his way with him and punished and bully boy tactics. He has just found a part time job flying a regional Jet.

Another Pilot stated that if unfortunately the CP died he would go to the funeral to ensure he was actually dead?

I guess IJM and IJC Gamma all seem normal now :(

recent ad out for Gulfstream Capt, it has to be this op based on the wording, who is about to get fired?

# flexible and enthusiastic attitude to merge into existing team.
# High personal standards and good track record required

Gulfstream Captain
 

Well hear we are again with the Mad copper wonder whom sights he has for firing now as he is recruiting yet again or is he retiring? to walking naughty Nigel and Boy wonder needs a good honest rest with Crockodilly pig needing his bottom changing.
:O
Captain for Private Operation Gulfstream


* UK-based, requiring EEC resident, I
* CAO ATP (JAA/FAA),
* Good PIC time,
* flexible and enthusiastic attitude to merge into existing team.
* High personal standards and good track record required.
* References will be sought.
* World-wide long-haul and short haul flying.Please apply via the online
application system.

Rusty T, where is this advert ?

Cheers

WW

Just caught up with this thread and surprised it's taken so long to pop up again.
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The court cases seem to be a part of the strategy.
Maybe nobody is allowed to stay long as they might get the ear of the boss and run off with the contract.
Not that this would ever happen - very old skeletons in closets perhaps!
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Incidentally, the '4 weeks and 3 days' guy actually got awarded 6 months pay.
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What would be interesting to know is what view the aviation authorities have on all this - if they even know.
All sorts of issues must surely be raised.
Perhaps it's the Cayman Reg that is providing the haven?
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The other big question is have enough Diners Club points been collected to finally get the Bentley? Surely a taxable perk!

GV Captain
 

Here is the link
Apply for the Captain for Private Operation Gulfstream job posted by Jet Personnel | AviationJobSearch.com

Good Luck and schedule your visit to the shrink during and after the interview

GV Captain
 

Dear Daisy Chain
Not sure about the Bentley but the Porsche 911 may have to be traded in against something a little bigger with the event of crockodilly pig needing a baby seat.

GV Revolving Door at EGBB
 

My My Chaps I have been following the comments on this topic and its horrific what this operation has done over the years providing in the CP eyes a flying club is somewhat good in some respect. He certainly has type rated more GV pilots than any one I know.
With the latest victims I just wonder what the owners actually think. Twin Rated and Rusty are very true to the exact detail.
It has to be the worst run operation in history, but with some of the nicest owners. This man has wasted millions on this operation with the way he has carried on over the years and 3 pilots dismissed within 18 months what does that say in addition to the 6 in the last 5 years.
He is indeed a complete and utter mad man and I caution anyone whom goes near the operation to be on their guard, he is a complete bully, arrogant person whom is at best like Robert Diniro in Anaylise this.

Charming person at times until the Jeckyl and Hyde come out of his black country brain of his with a Ruler to slap you across your knuckles.:\

Revolving Door
 

wow Victorian Dad you are a man of very wise advice, my advice totally stay away as well.
May be the authorities and a call from BALPA will start the ball rolling or better still a trip to lusanne or monaco to explain to the owners?:\

Here's the thing.
The CP was originally a constable.
After getting into aviation he eventually took over the Coventry/Birmingham operation whilst the original old boss was still running the family business.
Since 'the old man' retired both he (if he's still with us) and the next generations of the family seem reluctant to question the CP and his methods:
The trail of discarded pilots and the associated costs (including court cases).
The money spent on qualifying CP Junior from scratch.
The grief handed out to Gulfstream, Maintenance and Service organisations, FBOs and Training providers (who must surely add a little something for the humiliating treatment they also receive).
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One has to assume the family and the company directors are aware of all this. They ultimately sign off the accounts.
So it would also seem reasonable to assume he's untouchable. 'Why' is the interesting question and probably one that will never be answered. Not on this forum anyway.
The 'skeletons in the closet' comment and the fact that the CP used to be a PC would undoubtedly be career enhancing.
So it's the aviation authorities that CAN make a difference and it would be rather nice if this little empire was to crumble. The owners and company directors would presumably be grateful to.

Does this CP have a UK or JAA/EASA ATPL?

Fairly sure it's an FAA ticket with Bermudan validation.
Not convinced it's an ATP.

Does anyone know the reg, and who the owners acutaly are ?

ww

This guy is Litigious (you'd never have guessed) so one has to be careful.
However, All can be revealed by checking out these threads:
http://www.pprune.org/biz-jets-ag-fl...ht=coventry+GV
http://www.pprune.org/spectators-bal...ennis+Vanguard
by Captain Caveman and robbreid
http://www.pprune.org/biz-jets-ag-fl...eam+birmingham
http://www.pprune.org/biz-jets-ag-fl...est+challenger
http://www.pprune.org/biz-jets-ag-fl...freelance.html
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...Coventry+based
http://www.pprune.org/biz-jets-ag-fl...ennis+Vanguard
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Happy reading!

GV Position
 

Dear Daisy Chain thanks for your input I think this is very informative, Yes i was wondering if the Bermudian BDCA would be interested in this topic. I wonder how many validations they have applied for.
The Insurance for low time First officers is also a issue.

It sounds like he is pretty well protected within the company, however no one bullet proof.
Maybe the former pilots should get together and brain storm accordingly, they have certainly a reputation etc.:uhoh:

Yup tis "Brian Viscount" (changed name to protect the innocent):=

Old boss still there, When he does pass away think the company will probably go public to release cash out the company for the owners. Think that will change things for the CP and empire will crumble, but would guess the aircraft would go with the family as part of the pay off. Think CP only has caa cpl and flying based on FAA ticket and bermudan validation. Should set up a DL appreciation society on face book for those from the past and parties where we dress up in funny tash glasses comedy outfit with a belly and suit on :)

Nibbled to death by ducks.
 

How many folk monitoring this thread have firsthand experience of this operation?
Anyone that has and feels there are flight safety issues then the first two organisations that need to know are:

Peter Adheman, Flt Ops Inspector
Government of Bermuda, Department of Civil Aviation.

Marcus Doller, Personnel Licensing Specialist
Air Safety Support International (ASSI)

Not allowed to post their Emails here but both can be found by Googling their names.

Human Factors and compromising flight safety are the issues.

The authorities will only take note if a significant number of credible people bring this to their attention.
It doesn't just have to be Pilots. Engineers and ATC most likely also have a tale to tell.

And the little ducks went quack, quack!

OK. I've done my bit.
Wonder if I'll get a response!
Used @gov.bm and @airsafety.aero