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Minorite invisible 13th Sep 2009 14:45

Saudi wives in the baggage hold of a Challenger
 
I heard an unbelievable story yesterday. It's second hand, but here it is.

It seems that a Saudi man who owns a Challenger, has installed in the baggage hold of his aircraft, a couple jump-seats where he installs his wives when he travels with them. This is for when he travels with business partners, so that his wives do not mingle with the others.

If true, that he can get away with this in Saudi Arabia, I could understand for there, some people are above the law, but how come the authorities of the countries where he flies to accept such a practise?

Anyone know about this ?

two green one prayer 13th Sep 2009 14:48

Gives a whole new meaning to SLF:O

411A 13th Sep 2009 14:55

There is an STC for this very mod, so I understand.

nitpicker330 13th Sep 2009 15:17

So they don't need to follow the instructions of the crew in an emergency then?

I guess it would be a bit hard from a windowless compartment isolated from the cabin!!

And I'd thought I'd heard it all :hmm:

6000PIC 13th Sep 2009 16:03

I wonder if those poor wives still use that old line... " not my Mohammed , he`s different..." ha ha ha , I guess not. Frankly if you`re that controllable , you deserve it.

captainmorgan888 13th Sep 2009 16:21

Is this a factory option or aftermarket ? how many seats ? where can i get it ?

con-pilot 13th Sep 2009 19:07

I can't speak for the Challenger, however, I was told by some people with Dassault that they had a middle east customer request a window be installed in the baggage compartment on a Falcon 900. When Dassault inquired for the reason of the request, they were told that the owner planned to carry two if his servants in the baggage compartment on some trips and wanted a window installed so they could see out.

Dassault did not install the window.

(In case you are curious the Falcon 900 aft baggage compartment is accessible in flight through a door in the aft lav, below FL 410.)

Gulfstreamaviator 14th Sep 2009 08:36

sit two DS in aft lav
 
Two DS sitting in the aft lav, cos the owner did not wish to polute the cabin with them.

glf

south coast 14th Sep 2009 09:37

Don't see what the problem is.

lear60fellow 14th Sep 2009 14:57

Problem is racism and middle age thinking

south coast 14th Sep 2009 17:55

OK, now I am lost.

I thought we were all in agreement there is nothing wrong with where ever the Saudi wants his wife/wives to travel, be it in the cabin or baggage compartment.

His plane, his wife/wives, his decision, surely!

g21agoose 14th Sep 2009 18:02

411A-

There is an STC for this very mod, so I understand.
Does the mod contain a tie-down point for the shackles or is that extra? :rolleyes:

Flintstone 14th Sep 2009 18:14

The baggage locker on a Challenger is exactly ten paces behind the principal seat.

Coincidence? I think we should be told.

Torquatus 15th Sep 2009 00:06


His plane, his wife/wives, his decision, surely!
Some of us believe that women are people, not property.

INNflight 15th Sep 2009 09:45


Some of us believe that women are people, not property.
Surely most of them wouldn't mind the odd trip to Paris on a jumpseat with no windows when they get to go on a shopping spree spending 50k afterwards.

Lets face it, I don't agree with what is happening there, but there's millions of women that have waay more serious problems. :ouch:

Gulfstreamaviator 15th Sep 2009 20:20

Some of us believe that women are people, not property.
 
Now that sort of thinking is just not acceptable.

Whatever makes you think that women are people, as long as you believe that you will never be happy in my sand pit.

glf

12Watt Tim 17th Sep 2009 15:25

Innflight

I'm not sure that makes it acceptable.

south coast 17th Sep 2009 19:48

Get a grip dim Tim!

eyeinthesky 18th Sep 2009 03:22

QUOTE
exactly ten paces behind the principal seat
UNQUOTE

I thought that the first Gulf War and the risk of unexploded land mines had changed that tradition to ten paces IN FRONT.. :E

singpilot 18th Sep 2009 03:37

Often landing in Doha or Stanstead there was a ACJ in private livery and Qatar registration.

Many times, in Doha, there were 1 or 2 757's in same private livery.

Finally at UK end, ran into crew in Ops. The ACJ was only for the wives weekly shopping run to London, and 90% of what came back was from Harrods. The rest was in hand carry, very small ornate ribbon-wraped boxes.


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