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cl601 driver 2nd Jun 2009 19:50

Current Pay And Conditions
 
I was looking for some recent and up-to-date info on current salaries and working conditions in the biz sector. PPJN seems a little out dated.
Current rosters, sby days, salaries etc

Looking for info from pilots who operate many international flights on CL604 and bigger aircraft

Any onfo would be appreciated

BigNumber 2nd Jun 2009 21:17

65 Views and NO answers; that tells us quite alot about the experience level in this forum!

Freelance rate of 400 Euro's per day + 40 Euros's per diem.

This attracts a 10 day - 14 day Fix per month, but requires pretty much 24 / 7 / 365 availability.

I hope this helps.. Please grab any job you can - there really are SO few opportunities these days!:hmm:

BN

Joe le Taxi 2nd Jun 2009 21:33

That must surely be for FO!? And I guess your recurrents are paid for you - theres no way that cost could be recouped only charging 400e per day.

SGR 7th Jun 2009 22:06

$850 to $1000 per day in the US

ALDAB 11th Jun 2009 09:51

800 euros per day not less if recurrent training, medical aso are at your costs.

Flintstone 11th Jun 2009 11:17


65 Views and NO answers; that tells us quite alot about the experience level in this forum!
Or that not many people here freelance on Challengers.


Freelance rate of 400 Euro's per day + 40 Euros's per diem.
On a Challenger? Waaaaay off.

StressFree 11th Jun 2009 12:29

I fly a Challenger 604 from Luton, we pay £650 a day for a freelancer........not that theres much demand these days :eek:

specialbrew 11th Jun 2009 12:50

BigNumber,

If you double your rates (and Per Diems) then you are just about in the right place:ok:

BigNumber 11th Jun 2009 18:59

My goodness; guess I was working on the wrong side of the tracks!!!

Numbers are correct for the operation quoted sadly (on the larger types).

The Citation rates ( my ex gig ) numbers were even lower.. 300 Euro per day:ugh:

However, glad to see the market is willing to pay you boy's properly.

BN

BigNumber 11th Jun 2009 19:01

Should add; that a reasonable fix of days per month (circa 14) probably lowers the rates slightly?

BigNumber 13th Jun 2009 11:45

Possibly a help to the thread starter?

Info on PPJN shows VJ paying Euros 70K Gross before tax for Challenger P1.

Reading the foot-notes on roster this would also seemingly require very very high availability / flexibility.

Hope this helps.

BN

Flintstone 13th Jun 2009 12:17

Perhaps it might be more accurate to say 'request' (they can ask all they like) very, very high availability and flexibility as that's still below the going rate for a Challenger captain.

Then again if that's based on the island of Europe as opposed to the (main) island of the UK salaries are always a bit lower there anyway ;)

Empty Cruise 13th Jun 2009 14:27

80.K GBP for a Chally capt'n, not less. Diems on top...

LRdriver III 13th Jun 2009 15:24

Yep,
agreed.

VJ is one of the lower paying companies out there and not really representative of Challenger pay.

StressFree 13th Jun 2009 16:37

70k Euros for a Chally captain, I don't think so...........certainly not in the UK :eek:

"Fog in the Channel = Continent isolated" :E


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