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The Mad Russian 20th Feb 2009 09:25

I understand that this case was thrown out of court at the tribunal hearing yesterday and Captain Ed Murray was vindicated.

equine rotorhead 20th Feb 2009 09:32

Common sense prevails :D

SWBKCB 20th Feb 2009 11:13

From the Newcastle Journal (hostess was local):


And at the hearing in Southampton yesterday, Miss Quinn’s claims for sexual harassment and victimisation were dismissed. The tribunal panel ruled that the claim for sexual harassment had been submitted beyond a three-month deadline. It dismissed the claim for victimisation, stating that there was no evidence that she was sacked because she had made a complaint against Mr Murray.

At the hearing Peter Saville, representing Capt Murray and his employer Gama Aviation, said that if the text was sent by accident then it could not amount to sexual harassment. He said: “It does not matter what effect Capt Murray meant the text to have, but it does matter whether he meant Miss Quinn to get it at all. If a text message is sent entirely in error then it can’t be sexual harassment.”


Flintstone 20th Feb 2009 11:35

Actually not a bad result all round.

He can claim vindication on the basis the case was dismissed while she can claim that she lost on a technicality (time barred) and all concerned can get on with their lives.

AircraftOperations 20th Feb 2009 13:09

Did I miss what happened in the case of the male steward who was trying to take a case against RD and Tag/Greyscape/Absolute Taste?

Flintstone 20th Feb 2009 13:13

A scenario involving a male steward and some catering? Sounds fruity.

:E Ooooh, matron!!

equine rotorhead 20th Feb 2009 13:38

The case was dropped after the complainant apologised and withdrew his complaint I believe.

equine rotorhead 5th Jun 2009 11:23

Tribunal dismisses Flight Attendants Case
 
Just read that the case against Gama Aviation has been dismissed, thank goodness for common sense.:D

Duck Rogers 5th Jun 2009 17:01

We get it, ok? You're a GAMA fan/employee.

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Duck

x933 5th Jun 2009 20:58

Uh...different story I think boss...

BBC NEWS | England | London | Claim against air firm dismissed

Still a good result?

joehunt 6th Jun 2009 03:28

Let us not forget, the law is an ass. Just because the case's were thrown out does not mean vindication in my view.

1st case: Someone didn't show much intel as far as I am concerned. If you iintend to ndulge in that sort of behaviour, with your own crew, you are a retard at best. Within your own company is highly risky. My advise is, go find someone from another company to hit on.

2 case: Owners. I think the minimum age for application, some companies are stipulating, is far too young. I could say a lot more.

Flintstone 6th Jun 2009 11:47

X

Still smacks of the company's PR department to me and I saw the post as a whole new thread (now merged by the look of it). Make that lazy PR ;)

On (the new) topic though is anyone in this industry daft enough to argue that owners/passengers don't predominantly want younger, attractive FA's? I'm not for one minute saying that's fair but we all know it happens.

equine rotorhead 6th Jun 2009 12:39

Actually Duck, as X933 states, it was a different case which I was referring to. Having followed the case in the papers, I simply made a comment that I thought the result was justified, And no, I am not working for Gama so have no requirement to advertise for them. Hope thats ok..;)

Flintstone 6th Jun 2009 16:11

They'll like you now though eh? ;)

x933 6th Jun 2009 17:47

Flintstone - I only said it was a different story, not that it was completely unbiassed :E

Pontius_Pilot 8th Jun 2009 14:13

Glad to hear case was dismissed - bravo :ok:


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