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jr of dallas 13th Dec 2008 12:09

you'd better check with your training center and a FAA officer first that is for sure...

G-SPOTs Lost 13th Dec 2008 15:19

Pilot at last

From a previous post of yours


CAA ATPL to CANADIAN ATPL

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I have a UK ATPL and would like to convert to a canadian ATPL. Whats the easiest way to get this done?
If you have a ICAO ATPL you just have to do an FAA ATP written and have a US check airman sit in on your initial /renewal. You then get a fresh clean FAA ATP.

if you try to have a FAA PPL issued on the back of another ICAO license you will struggle to get the bermudans to accepty this because for all intents and purposes you're asking for a validation of a validation.

PS you DO NOT need a current medical to have the ATP and TR issued in the US, you just cant use it till you get one

pilotatlast 13th Dec 2008 17:22

G spots thanks for that. WhenI get my medical if i can only get a class 3 FAA what could i use my FAA ATP and type rating for? i.e in terms of flying for a private owner. I realise I couldn't fly commercially.

chornedsnorkack 13th Dec 2008 19:48


i.e in terms of flying for a private owner. I realise I couldn't fly commercially.
Is flying for a private owner for hire or reward commercial flying?

G-SPOTs Lost 13th Dec 2008 20:26

Well if you're one of the crusty grey haired captains referred to earlier and it was my aircraft that I'd just ploughed 50$Mil into , you'd be some vice president of ******** ********** and operations (you can insert anything you like in the ******** bits)

GV's need a lot of management theres a legitimate role for you somewhere. Would be a very good opportunity for a senior FO to swap seats and get some "supervised" P1 time. The role would need to stand up to scrutiny, but less so as you're bermudan rather than the litigious feds

Only suggestion for the ATP at renewal time was just to avoid having to bomb around in a seneca and do the PPL writtens (having said that might be good fun :ok:) and its a whole different TSA/HSA application

The other reason if you get ramp checked and you have a PPL you're going to get looked at sideways, with your FAA ATP/Class three it will provide you with backward PPL privileges anyway. Besides it would oil the process of validation if you have an ATP - there will be less explaining to do all around..

Hope you get your issues resolved soon.

Cheers

FixedRotaryWing 13th Dec 2008 23:15

The FAA prohibits any compensation for flights, if the pilot has PPL only...

I don't know what the insurance company says about those intentions.

G-SPOTs Lost 14th Dec 2008 07:26

Insurance companies are worried about claims and assess risk, if the guy has a FAA PPL with the G5 on it then they should be worried, if he's parked a TR on the FAA PPL whilst he's in the process of sorting out another G5 type rated ICAO ATPL medical issue and he's experienced and experienced on type, then any insurance company that I would be wanting to insure the aircraft would just see it for what it is which is a temporary paperwork exercise - underwrite it and move on.

They would probably be more interested in the other issue than what class of license he's got


The FAA prohibits any compensation for flights, if the pilot has PPL only...
Well yes, but he has other management duties, an office and a desk and a plaque on his door that says something else other than pilot. You take the piss out of the feds at your peril. But the aircraft is being operated on the Bermudan Register on a validation (thats to say that he has a bermudan license) so its up to the bermudans to take issue with it should they wish to.

Lets not get ito the fly for reward arguement

happyjack 14th Dec 2008 16:24

This thread is ludicrous!
No-one anywhere is going to put a PPL in a GV. Period!
If you want the answer to your question it's easy: Get a professional licence, go and fly a few high performance aircraft for a few years and if you are then fortunate enough to find a job on a GV , good luck and well done.
But to continue with ramifications of a purely hyperthetical situation is utterly pointless.

G-SPOTs Lost 14th Dec 2008 18:35

Unhappyjack

Calm down and read the thread again, its a paperwork issue as the guy has a medical issue its not like he's fresh out of a C150 asking if he can have savannah's finest to fly VFR in ;)


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