Ocean Sky
 

Just wondering if anyone could tell the roster pattern on the Challenger 604/605? What is the pay for an FO?

Any info greatly received

Sorry, non flying related but word on the street is that OCS`s financial position is not great at the moment.

Better off with twinjet or the like.

PJB.

OCS
 

Not sure PJB is right, OCS just bought 2 additional new 605s, they just recieved first GEX, second in July, and i heard from a friend who works there they getting 8 heavy jets this year.

probably expanding to fast;)

stay away from them, just an advise

transilvana, would you care to enlighten us a little more? Friend of mine is in the final stage of his application there and very short before cancelling his current contract...

Just for the record.....
 

Financialy Ocean Sky are very sound, there's nothing to worry about there at all. As mentioned already, two new CL605's, two owned CL604's and plenty more on the way!

For the record also : brand new G550 added recently at Ocean Sky as an upgrade of a G450, which was managed by another operator.

They expect to build a fleet of 20 aircraft by the end of 2009.

Careful...the size of the fleet (either existing or planned) has nothing at all to do with an Operator's stability! I've seen this picture before and no doubt will do so again in this business. Can't confirm or deny any rumours but there's no smoke without fire guys.

buying aircraft/increasing fleet = stability?

Oasis?

I don't know why some posters here prefer to hint a things instead of saying them... Maybe they feel it makes them look smarter or better informed... it does not.
Anyway. Ocean sky is backed by a Russian family, they have some aeronautical experience already (ocean cargo). They have a lot of money to spend. After the acquisition of NEA, other things planned: fleet expansion, own ground ops, possible acquisition of simulators in the UK.
Upside: a very good understanding of the Russian customers and their needs. Their cabin service for example is very good, and tailored to the demands of their clients. They sell a lot of charter flights at prices only Russians are willing to pay, and the management side looks pretty good also, from the one customer I had a chance to talk to.
Downside: it's the company owner's train set, and if they decide they are tired of aviation, or of the UK, they can pack up and leave town very fast if needed.

It's the downside you mention that worries most people I think. Certainly I am watching this space with interest.

Ocean Sky
 

Did the downside include some aeronautical experience in Ocean Airlines?

yes it didocean airlines all aircraft as far as i am aware are Impounded/Groundedbe careful men bearing gifts/promises

ocean airlines are not oceansky, just check Kronus Capital and draw comparison. From my research OCS are a dynamic and progressive organisation that has a total aviation package ranging from sales,acquisition,brokerage,maintenance and FBO capability. Seems prudent to cast the net and not put all eggs in one basket. Good luck to them, I doubt if they will need it

Oceansky Employee Alert! :E:}

Privatejetbroker,
"better off with twinjet" - ha ha ha, thats a classic :eek:
The most humourous post of the year so far :D

did i pick a bad example......!

ok , GAMA then

Oceansky Employee Alert!

The Other Side is way off, not an employee of OCS but I am sure a lot worse companies to be employed by.

ocean sky ocean airlines
 

ocean sky, ocean airlines, kronos capital = same principals

For those of us less enlightened about Kronos Capitals practices and ethics Mouse, maybe you could spell it out for us?

What the advert says is:

"We offer the highest salaries in the industry, private medical insurance and an excellent bonus scheme."

Hi guys,

I am desparetly looking for info about Ocean Sky. As far as I know they are hiring for LR 60. Appreciate any info on the company with focus on:

* Salary for F/O on LR60
* Roster
* Operation

And above all, can anyone recommend to join this company?
Many thanks in advance.

Currently, there is no Lear 60 in their fleet.

Hi Monkey Boy,

yes, I know, but on their website is says that they are looking for Capt. and F/O for the LR60. So guess they will have one soon.


Cheers

Nice website
 

Nice website... are they operating CJ2/3 yet?

A CJ 3 just arrived!

And Lear 60 XR will come soon!

care to elaborate flugfisch?

Ocean Sky FBO
 

Not sure how connected the Ocean Sky flight dept is to their MAN FBO, but recent experience is less than professional. They have yet to respond to radio call inbound, many times don't answer telephone, and catering has been non existant last three iterations.

Taxi out last week and number two for takeoff. Tower advises return to Ocean Sky to pick up the client bags they neglected to put on the aircraft. Nuff said.

1Bingo...interesting, I found the same when I was there last week. All new faces (at least the shift that I saw) and nobody bothered to answer radio calls. I asked one lady for a telephone call, which she did make, but apparently after clearing my stuff she chatted like about 10 minutes with the guy and did not bother to tell me the outcome of my request. Stood at the desk and looked at her with a big questionmark in my face....
The line guys are nice, but I explained about 7000 times that I want my airplane facing into the wind (got a 10ktstail/crosswind limit on starting), when I came to the airplane it was facing....tail into wind at gusts at 15 to 18 kts. Asked the guy turn my airplane which he started to, but then the odd NetJets G5 truned up and me and my crappy Cessna werent to important any more. Took another 15 minutes for him to come back (not exactly the guys fault, I guess just not enough staff) By the time he was back, my pax should have turned up (they were fortunately late...)

May its just the gloom of history, but I thought that the lounge was a little less fancy, but the service was better. And, they had cookies at NEA, OS did not. (and really puts me out!)

they are going down the hill with no brakes and tail wind!!! keep away from them, if you know someone who wants to work for them, keep him away.

disregard!

:} What more can I say!

M*** F****
 

I thought PPRuNe meant Professional Pilots Rumour Network ! When did it become Personal attack whilst hiding behind a false handle ?

Let he who is without sin .....................

In fairness to the guys in the FBO there is a good team of hard working people there.

OCS Handling Team
 

With regards to the Handling guys and comments made earlier by Bingo1, the guys at Manchester have had to cope with a major increase in traffic over the last 6 months and a complete overhaul and upgrade of the facility.

Staffing levels have been increased but unfortunately training of new staff must be difficult, given the day to day operation of the FBO and engineering. I was over there the other day and there must have been 3 company challengers & a Glex parked up on their already cramped ramp and remote areas.

M*** "I'll let you down" F****
 

He's not still there??!!:* Assumed he would have disappeared into the ether along with the NEA name. Shame, but then there's always the opportunity to meet up with him again!

Rgds
The Moss:ok:

am I correct in thinking their current fleet is as such?

2x CL604 (G-OCSC/OCSD)
2x CL605 (G-OCSE/OCSF)
1X LJ40 (G-MOOO)
2x LJ45 (G-JANV/RWGW)

plus these not operated on the AOC

CL604 G-STCC
G550 G-EGNS
C525B OE-GJF

MTIA
FC

All correct apart from G-STCC. That's not operated by Ocean Sky anymore. Look out for some more heavy metal soon, the Global's are on their way!

ocean sky
 

Well I hope someone knows what he/she is doing, judging by the last few postings it would appear otherwise.

Interview
 

Hi, does anyone have any information on the tech paper they give you at interviews, what are the questions ??
Thanks