Club 328 in trouble????
 

Hi, just heard that staff at Club 328 have been informed that they wont be paid for January. Is the writing on the wall??

I was under the impression that Club 328 was now Plane Chartering?!

http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...light=club+328

yep, changed hands some time ago to Plane Chartering....

Despite the name change, have staff been paid ??

Been paided for Jan as expected and seeing as G-sova went to Cannes and the alps yesterday and is in the swiss alps tonight I don't quite see how that counts as being grounded. G-luxy is being flight tested by the CAA at the earliest opportunity, the last date being cancelled due to the high winds recently. The move to Biggin has now taken place. Any other negative remarks?

So those flight were public transport then?!!!! :suspect:
I wish you the very best of british.

Change their name quite a lot don`t they...can`t remember what it was before bookajet, then club...

Ourjet, Calljet, bookajet then club 328... it goes on...

Yeah thats them, i couldn`t remember! Must be like flogging a dead cat now!

Ho hum, quite a bit of, well, nothing, in here. I got paid for January ok. Where did this rumour come from ? Seeing's I got paid on 31st January, and you posted this on 8th Feb, you seem to be quite slow putting this on here. Care to expand ? I don't mind a bit of good old fashioned mud-slinging, if there's some truth in it, but this seems to be a bit of a 'fishing' line.

Rumour straight from the source....
 

A collegue of mine was made aware of this while carrying out an internal safety audit. It was a senior member of staff who furnished him with this information. So if there is any mud-slinging going on..........its from the inside. Dont shoot the messenger, however I think the above posts tell their own story. This is a rumour network afterall, for the sake off the guys/girls flying I hope its not true. Lets just watch this space.

Crew/staff meeting today at Biggin Hill. Hope everything is ok.

Club 328 RIP?
 

Went tits up yesterday, by all accounts.

Not sure about Plane Charter / parent company.

your sources are wrong New Timer - a pruning and restructuring would be a more appropriate description......

sometimes companies get into difficult positions through a variety of reasons and have to take harsh decisions to extract themselves out of the poo and get back on the road to recovery...... what they dont need is illinformed people spouting off voicing incorrect information...... :rolleyes:

Care to elaborate then Jetscream? Then surely the misrepresentation of situations will cease?

Put the record straight for us - come on! :E

Well, seeing as the Dornier's going / gone then surely a new name would be on the cards! Club *** maybe? Perhaps that's why Plane Chartering stepped in ;)




****Update - Just heard the Premier 1's have gone too! Is this true?****

Well, my source says they have made all their pilots and their Continuing Airworthiness Manager redundant at the very least, and indicated that they might not get paid... sounds fairly terminal whatever spin you want to put on it.

:ouch:

Those people that need to know what is going on at the moment have been informed.

New Timer Any chance I could have the name of your source seeing as I'm a pilot for the company and have not been made redundant!!! Please be careful when making comments like this as they are clearly not based on any factual information:bored:

I may be made redundant at some stage but at this moment in time I'm still employed!!

New Timer - yes this is a rumour forum - but YOUR RUMOURS are incorrect.

The biggin operation is likely to centre around 2 types of aircraft, both that are reliable and accepted as workhorses in the charter industry.

Yes there were cutbacks this week, but there is more than sufficient funds to continue operations - how about you just bite your tongue a little and improve on your maths - 2+2 does not equal 7,392.43.....

Any accountable people as per the EASA requirements for an AOC will either be replaced or still in situ - otherwise you cant operate - can you...!!!

So odds are that if people are still employed which they clearly are then there may be some new people in new posts.....

In the industry we call in RESTRUCTURING.... however normal caveats apply - long way to go and no promises it will be successful - however dont try - dont know.... :=

Well said Jetscream:D

Payment
 

Jetscream,

If rumours are incorrect, i put aside any crew redundancy rumours as have no steer on that one, how come very very large invoices for suppliers under 328 have not been paid nor will now be paid due to the situation with the company. No need for a rumour mill there! Speaks for itself.

Bookajet?
 

Pardon the ignorance but if Bookajet became Club328, how come Bookajet are still operating at EGLF ? Is this an unrelated company now?

I apologise for going slightly off-topic but there is a vague connection in the form of the mysterious Quest Aviation that arose from the MBO of Club 328, JETS, Euromanx and 328SSG. Mr Seymour's legacy doesn't seem to be doing too well; Club 328 'restructuring' (that well-worn management-speak euphamism) and it would appear Euromanx is stagnating quietly on the Isle of Man with many of the local pundits writing it off altogether, so just who is Quest Aviation. The Club 328 Dornier Jet and Euromanx's Dashes all appeared on the same 'for sale' fax that was flashed around the world a few months ago.:confused:

Quest Aviation
 

Believe me Quest is nothing to do with WVS.

Plane Chartering
 

At least one pilot didn't get paid on time. And guess what?

He left...:D

What is the lastest on Club 328/Plane Chartering
 

Has PC acquired AVTEC @ Biggin? Is the Club 328 AOC still on notice and is the intention to transfer it to Plane Chartering thereby removing Club 328 from the scene? Does anyone really know what is going on with this company?

Nope, Avtec deal didn't happen, and PP pocketed a nice fat deposit apparently. Presumably PC will try and complete the purchase at a later date - If there's any money left. Meanwhile, One C550 with neither engine present apparently!!

that's because one was a loaner and the other one has just been overhauled and about to be hanged in situ of the time ex one and change for another loaner - if that makes any sense.... either way it wont be out for ages....... has been in CAM forecast for months - thats why DW pitched up......!!

Um, so is he hoping to run with THREE citations? Or just the two? Apparently certain key post-holders have let go of their posts... CAA still supportive though?

Couple of post holders have given notice but are still committed to helping the company as i understand by working their full notice period - and not just walking...!! either way the next 30 days will be critical for them, in terms of postholders, investors, and aircraft servicability / availability.... but then again it the problems dog new companies and new aircraft...... as anyone with a Premier will tell you....lol :hmm:

transfer of AOC
 

Can one transfer the assets of an AOC holder into the clutches of another company, howsover close, leaving debts around the industry and I guess starting the following day with a clean slate ?
does the CAA support this type of action ?
does our industry assume PC is credible if this action takes place and will it support him when he bowls up at a.n.other airport, or fuel provider etc and asks for credit under Plancechartering.......here we go again, the frequent industry entrant thinking he can take us all for a ride.
Are bills being paid ?
does Club 328 still hold an AOC ?
Is Planechartering the AOC holder ?
Illegal charters....whats the chances....I hope the pilots are aware of their invlovement if anything fishy is going on.

oooerrr or whoever you really are - being as every part of your post is utter crap - why dont you delete it - toddle off to the library, do some homework on the subject then come back for another try....... if you knew anything about PC you would not have written such utter drivel..... and read the ano whilst your there oh and the little bit of paper called JAR-OPS 1... :mad:

thanks Jetscream32, as you are clearly in the know and on the inside, simple guidance and answers would help to this genuine question on legislation, not the kind of reply you posted, then we can all learn from your obvious vast experience.

mmmmm genuine........! me thinks leading and very assuming? - well i can tell you tomorrow will be a fairly decisive day......

:cool:

And? Was it decisive?

put it this way phil....... over water - astro compass only thing working - and bingo light just came on....... but there is land around here somewhere......!! -oh and it's OVC at 500ft to make things better.......

this is really how tight it is.........

standby................!:suspect:

The End of a Dream
 

Looks like the landing lights have been switched off at CLUB 328/PC...........assets transferred......aircraft grounded............bills unpaid???

that's funny that must of all happened after 5pm then..........

FYI - there are no assets in the 328 name other than the AOC which is not transferrable.... SOVA is in mx - LUXY on pan both owned by mitre which again is PC but you cant really touch it other than for eurocharges....and DW NE & HM are all privately owned..... yes there are hundreds of creditors.... but the AOC was not suspended tonight.... :mad:

AOC
 

Thanks Jetscream....very informative.

So what is the outcome of todays high level meeting?

The industry needs confidence again, all this is not helpful and very damaging.

Is the owner of DW being paid? Apparently not!

Who has stepped in with finance, PP @ AVTEC must be rubbing his hands in glee after being relieved of the burdon!

Staff been paid?

It is all interesting reading, that is if we could believe any of it.

thats funny - not 2 posts ago you said it was all over now your expecting me to fill you in on all the details..... and also making out that im lying???

sorry - off to the pub..... im sure if your interested you wil find out... being as you seem to know anyway..... :ugh: