you sure know alot about flight sims...

I wouldn't have known B was for brake.

you've proven what you fly.

Hang in there
 

Hang in there Stoker...your right....

Towers...your just another single pilot hater...I see them all the time...

Telling everyone to 'wait and see' on the Maine crash is prudent, but unless a rocket hit the plane, an elevator came off, the plane cracked in two, we all know it was probably another biz owner, with dubious hours, flying a jet, with out serious experience, and again remember, she declared Mayday because her gyro was out....

I will hold out judgement, just out of respect, benefit of the doubt, but I don't see anyone crying for her son that she took with her...remember them?, the passengers? Anyone feel sorry for them?

So the next time we all get caught up in wondering whether or not you need three EFIS tubes and dual FMS to fly a plane, why don't we ask a passenger what thier standard is for a pilot....the debate ends there.

Now here is some willy waving going on...
 

....now then, delicate touch needed, I fancy....

1) We, the Germans invented nearly anything in flying. Aircraft, jet engines, ejector seats, RADAR, you name it. Fact, so don´t argue! In a nutshell: we are best, .... the rest. Wait a minute, that part has been stolen after the war by the `mericans... :D

2) RAF fighter jocks don´t fit american majors. Not arrogant and pompous enough they are. Or are they?

3) Single pilot jet pilots are the very best pilots. Willy is at least mighty and they ´d NEVER ever declare an emergency.

4) Exemption from 3): Owner pilots. too damn bad pilots, not interested in anything about safety.Especially when they are mothers and have their sons with them, and have apparently trained more then once on a simulator. Whilst argueing/speculating about the cause without mentioning the passengers is a biiiiig no-no.

5) Beeing a 737 Captain for a major makes your willy bigger.

6) Beeing american makes you an expert because America invented flying.

7) Beeing english makes you an expert because America invented flying, and after all, america is british. Sort of. Has been. Well, you know...

8) Beeing english makes you an expert because you were fed on cynicism as a child.

9) Being German makes you very much unliked because we eat children for breakfast.


CAN WE PLEASE GET BACK TO TOPIC?

Okay guys, I really tried to piss you of. Can we now discuss on the facts without throwing drivel at each other?

his dudeness
 

I will agree to your terms. However I ask that you be the referee/umpire from this point on. No attacks on the person posting, just debate the ideas, concepts, etc.

OK?

Sevenstrokeroll wrote in reply to His dudeness,

I'm big enough to fight my own battles thank you and it will be a cold day in hell when I accede to the comments of sevenstrokeroll.

Bombs. You forgot to mention bombs. Dropped one on my grandad's chip shop in WW2 as well you b@stards. You remember WW2? The one that sevenstroker won all by himself while capturing the Enigma machine from Das Boot.


Hmmm, tricky one. How do you know there's a RAF Harrier (which the sevenstroker air force bought from the Brits) pilot in the room? He'll TELL you!


Getting a bit worried by your homo-erotic tendencies here HD. You're back to talking about willies again. Stop it.


You've lost me with your rambling man. Damn you and your willy fixation!!


Sitting with my back to the wall now. Very worried.



Stop teasing him. The Wrights learned about airframes from my mate Otto and others who used to launch themselves into the air and glide around in things that were (apparently) not aircraft. What were they then, bathtubs?:confused:


Now you're getting the hang of it! We have let the 'merkins look after that bit of the world for a while because we're erm, a bit busy at the minute. Trouble is they've filled the place up with Meskins and that lot that beat them in a war. What are they called? Errrrrrrm, Vietnamese! That's it, little guys. Hard workers. Will do your homework for $5 an hour.


No, no, no. As children were fed on bland cuts of fatty meat with piles of green mush and white mush that started life as perfectly wholesome vegetables since boiled to destruction thus ensuring every molecule of vitamins and goodness has been leached out. I do believe the leftovers are soaked and cooked in fat from cattle fed on pure steroids and sold as something called ' Mack-donn-ulds'.


And steal people's countries and bomb my grandad's chip shop. B@stards. Haha, we showed you though. didn't we? We invented FOOTBALL (at which you beat us most times :*). PROPER football where the ball is kicked. Not that poncey game where guys get wrapped up in fluff and sponges and mince about for ten seconds at a time between commercial breaks.


No. If sevenstroker can do it why can't the rest of us? This all makes as much sense as one of his posts.

hisdudeness

will you umpire?

(refraining)

Sevenstokeroll wrote,

Funny........

kwachon

please answer a question for us. it pertains to the thread:

did you examine or train the pilot involved in the crash?

Just for you Sevenstrokeroll,

If you look at my profile you will see I am not type rated on the CJ, hence not authorized to teach or examine on it.

As I stated in post #8, I met this pilot on numerous occasions at my former place of work, not once did she display in my presence any of the false and negative attributes I have seen written on this thread particularly by you.

You seem to take great pleasure in trashing Flight Safety but you need to understand some basic facts,


a) An Instrument Rating is a pre-requisite for a type rating course with Flight Safety or any other FTO and as such they have no control as to where the training was received just that the applicant is suitably licensed.

b) The Practical Test Standards for the type rating issuance or recurrent training are neither derived by or in any part written by Flight Safety. Try looking at the FAR's.

c) Check rides are conducted by an FAA examiner or designee and as such in that position they hold no allegiance to Flight Safety or any other institution whilst operating in that capacity.

Strange thing is, for someone who professes to be a 737 Captain with "A Major US Airline", you seem oblivious to the obvious and have no knowledge of how check rides are carried out and who carries them out.

Very odd, very odd indeed!.

<Yoda voice> The force is weak with this one</Yoda voice>

Looks like you've been sussed sevenstroker. Time to leave?

flintstone: I don't think the USAF bought the Harrier. The USMC got them and they were built under license in the US by douglas...if I am not mistaken.

And the USMC is different than the USAF.

Kwachon:

I didn't look at your profile.

AS you didn't observe the pilot in question as an examiner or teacher, how did you observe her? simple question. Did you sit in on her sim sessions? Did you chat with her in the hallway?

by the way, I went to two FSI facilities for training. Both in Texas.

The MU2 sim training was conducted by someone who had never flown the MU2 (aka rice rocket). Really top notch staff their FSI!

The SA227(san antonio sewer pipe) training was mediocre at best. My then employer provided the designated examiner for the type ride.

both were done in the middle 80's.

I do doubt that FSI had in their sylabus "taxi through ditch".

And it is that very fact, observed by witnesses at the augusta airport that makes me think that this poor woman had other problems that particular night.

As I mentioned in an earlier post, the AIM ( can you tell us what that means Kwachon?) asks pilots to check their readiness for flight with the term:

I
M
S
A
F
E

Certainly as an instructor, you can tell us what that means...even without looking it up.

An FAA examiner conducted a type rating ride for an America West pilot, the pilot passed the checkride/typeride, and later was arrested in Miami for being drunk at the controls of the plane.

So please don't tell me that one observation on one given day is the ultimate answer to a pilot's state of mind.


Flintstone...Yoda is a puppet. Go play with your puppets.

Kwachon:

I see you flew the SA 227 also. Well, then you must be able to tell us all what "click clacks" are.

And where the "Po Folks" Restaurant is near the SA 227 facility in San Antonio.

Notice above what I thought of the SA 227 stuff at FSI...and that was before I knew you were involved.

(and for those who don't know, the mu2 doesn't require a type)

I know you know the garrett engine salute. I'm giving it to you now.

And you can tell us all about the SA226 jato bottle.

Interesting, I am not aware of any FSI facility in Texas with an MU2 sim, I do know about the SA227 though as I am typed on that aircraft and was once on that program as an Instructor. As for the AIM, well I will just leave that to your imagination.

Now then,

As a 737 Captain for a major US Airline even you should know that instructors have to be observed by an examiner in the simulator teaching to maintain their currency regardless of who is sitting up front.

What on earth are you trying to say here, are you blaming the FAA examiner?, he only did his job on that day, surely you as a 737 Captain for a major US Airline have had FAA checkrides, what has the pilot being caught drunk later have to do with it?. Are you blaming America West?, Could this be you?, It sure would answer a lot of questions.


my quote,

Sevenstrokeroll quote,

Mmmmm, I will let you think about that one. Should keep you busy for a few days.


Recurrent training for the CJ is not one day, it is normally 5 if not Part 135.

And finally just for you,



Guess what, It did not come from the AIM, It is actually from the AME branch in Oklahoma City. You learn something new every day don't you, but of course you knew that anyway because you are a 737 Captain for a major US Airline.

As I said previously, "Very odd, very odd indeed."

I am playing with a puppet, as are some of the others on here. We pull a string and you jump.

You're so insecure you can't help yourself. If you ever were a real pilot I'll bet more than a few of your co-pilots call in sick. CRM nightmare.


That's probably too subtle for you sevenstroker but if you do work out what kwachon's telling you I can vouch for his credentials. Small world, innit?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/3...ots_afp300.jpg

Now then, which one are you sevenstrokeroll......I think the one on the left...

still not answering the questions
 

click clack?

jato bottle/sa 226

and no, I am not an America West pilot.

And I taught CRM, so please, you guys are so off, I think you must be on the "A" of the above checklist.

AS A FLIGHT SAFETY INSTRUCTOR you don't know where the MU2 sim is? OH PLEASE. ASK.

Or maybe they got out of the MU2 biz.

So many crashes.


Flinstone vouching for Kwachon? That's like barney rubble vouching for fred.

So why not tell us you were in the sim with the pilot in question, observing the sim instructor?


I feel sorry for both of you. And Kwachon. You never flew for an airline. (That must be the reason you keep bringing up my quals.)

That's like not taking the training wheels off a bike.

I guess the headline could have read: Flight Safety Trained pilot crashes in Maine. Witnesses report difficulty in taxiing across ditch, inability to activate PCL.

Selfstroker. You owe me a new ironymeter, mine just broke on seeing your last post. Funny how you rubbish someone vouching for another yet expect everyone to simply believe you. Maybe it's envy? Kwachon turns out to be higher qualified than you with first hand knowledge of the pilot you so readily trashed, bit embarrassing eh?



Selfstroker the CRM instructor. Now that IS funny :O

Selfstroker...found this on Airliners.net

Now then, read your last post, read this post and look at the photographs, my money is on the left.

kwachon

now I know. you are a bluffer. you had to use the web to find out about the jato bottle on the SA 226.

You see, anyone who actually had flown the 226 or 227 would have known enough to write it without going to the internet.

you haven't talked about click clacks

or the garrett engine salute....probably not on the internet.

I didn't fly for Air Midwest. My SA 226/227 operator was in California. Based at SBP.

we are done now you phony.

anyone who had flown an SA 227 would know about the above.

You could tell us all about CAWI too.

But you can't. You can't tell us about CAWI, or click clacks or the salute.

because you aren't who you claim to be.

Over and OUT.