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GULF69 11th May 2006 07:16

GLF5 Sinks into tarmac!
 
Anyone seen this or know where it was?I only got e-mailed the photo's, no explanation.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...nTarmak001.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...nTarmak002.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...nTarmak011.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...nTarmak012.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...nTarmak013.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...nTarmak014.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...nTarmak016.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...nTarmak017.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...nTarmak018.jpg


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J32/41 11th May 2006 09:45

Those pictures cannot be real, is it a photshop job?

Seems strange on the last picture the fuel hose is attached, are they planning to depart soon??

GULF69 11th May 2006 09:57

Hi, J32/41
Logically, I would imagine the fuel hose would be for de-fueling, no? It would be far easier and safer to maneuver a GV that's empty.

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J32/41 11th May 2006 10:10

Veru true, didn't think of that.

Sorry
:\ :\

Farmer 1 11th May 2006 10:24

Isn't it weird how that wing was bent up like that?

Roger Copy Charlie 11th May 2006 11:12

bent wing
 
it's a winglet... it's normal

GULF69 11th May 2006 11:30

LOL BCC!!!!!!!!!

Farmer 1 11th May 2006 11:44


Isn't it weird how that wing was bent up like that?

Originally Posted by Roger Copy Charlie
it's a winglet... it's normal

All right, isn't it weird how that winglet was bent up like that?

PPRuNeUser0215 11th May 2006 12:10

My expert opinion...

It's sunny (proved by photo), very hot (proved by soft tarmac) therefore I know for a fact that the wings have gone soft hence why they are bent.
Now why upward is the question ?

Because when the aircraft due to high temperature (well above ISA which what is used as standard measurement/design) started to melt, it happened so quickly that the A/C dropped (Gravity) but at the same time it got nearer its own shade (cooler) therefore cooled down pretty much instantly, leaving the winglets hardening whilst in motion.

A bit like a fossil

richiya 11th May 2006 19:34

Great so now we have a GV that has not only sank into the tarmac, but on top of that they will have to try and bend the tip back into position!! maybe put it upside down on a hot day and wait for it to melt back into place, it might save some repare costs.....:rolleyes:



ooops , sorry didn´t realise it had already got to the fossil stage, my idea won't work..... it will be very expensive to repair!!

PPPmember 12th May 2006 00:58

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Bumz_Rush 12th May 2006 06:52

DE Fuel
 
defueling is also conducted using the same coupling as fueling....and de fueling would make some logical sense...
Ground service bus is powered so defueling in progress, is possible....


As to photoshop, it is not possible to examine these pics at a good resolution to see any pixel manipulation. Shadows look OK, and the guy under the wing picture looks real too...In fact just too many pics to suggest manipulation..next picture would show the air bag, or the sinking winglet....But I do like the sales pitch...Bumz

Selfloading 12th May 2006 07:23

If i was them i would just bend the other wingtip up, it would be a lot easier :)

Fossy 12th May 2006 09:51

Several years ago same happened to a Gulfstream in LBG

Flintstone 12th May 2006 13:03


Originally Posted by PPPmember
Some sales spiel

Not today thank you, I never buy from cold callers :D

Farmer 1, you're being sarcastic? Winglets are, to use a technical term, the bendy up bits on the wingtips. Both are the same (or have I completly missed the joke here?)

Dumbledor 12th May 2006 17:05


Originally Posted by Fossy
Several years ago same happened to a Gulfstream in LBG

I remember that, they used massive inflatable cushions to try and lift the aircraft from the tarmac and lessen the damage as I remember. That was a hot day too.......
I wasn't there long enough to see how they managed to extricate the undercarriage from the hole in the tarmac though.
D

SnowPilot 12th May 2006 19:36

plane sank in okatie sc home of NJI

mary_hinge 12th May 2006 22:13

Also a Saudi GIV, whilst being out-fitted at the old West Malling site (Huntings ?) went through the floor of the Hangar.

Air Bags used to lift the aircraft and a "roadway" created with large steel sheets to allow the thing to be towed clear.

HGFC1 13th May 2006 00:07

Don't forget BA's 747-400 at Perth WA. There had been really heavy rain and, unbeknownst to all, the soil under the turning circle had been washed out. The unfortunate captain tried to turn his aircraft only to have the tarmac collapse under a wheel. It required heavy lifting gear to extricate it 24 hours or so later. It didn't make the news as all on board were uninjured.

Mikester540 14th May 2006 03:00

Fake, well it's leaning, but the wheel isn't in the ground!
 
I thought it was real...
Well, the leaning part is real and it seems that the gear was fine, but it is completely pressed down.
The image where the wheel was 'in' the pavement has been photoshopped.
Here is my reasoning shown in the picture I edited (to show detail)
http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/1...msinkno0mh.jpg
Look, the left landing gear (Where it would be VERY hard to photoshop is fine, showing the gear completely pressed down, but straight and not slanted.)
The right photo shows the gear leaning (look at the angle) and in the pavement. That is the shot that has been faked.
Thanks,
Michael C. Phillips


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