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Old 6th Aug 2021, 11:50
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You don't have to agree with all of Dan's views and opinions, but I think he verbalizes the circumstances of this accident quite well:

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Old 8th Aug 2021, 01:14
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Who was flying?

Originally Posted by EatMyShorts!
You don't have to agree with all of Dan's views and opinions, but I think he verbalizes the circumstances of this accident quite well:

https://youtu.be/qeUwYhVtlDc
Knowing the PIC personally I believe it is him that can be heard making the radio calls. Has anyone been able to locate the SIC details on the FAA airman registry as I can not. It is hoped that the PIC was not flying and talking on the radio or even that with a difficult circling approach it was not the right seat SIC trying this with a left hand circle. Normally one pilot is flying and the other on the radio…..
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Old 8th Aug 2021, 02:46
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How much distance does a 605 need to slow down from barber pole to Vref over the fence ?
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Old 9th Aug 2021, 23:04
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Originally Posted by fitliker
How much distance does a 605 need to slow down from barber pole to Vref over the fence ?

What would that have to do with this accident??
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Old 11th Aug 2021, 19:19
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To avoid giving me a heart attack each time I open PPrune, could someone (OP or a mod) please add a DATE to the thread title?
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Old 15th Aug 2021, 12:02
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NTSB preliminary

Both recorders recovered.
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Old 4th Sep 2021, 10:14
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Originally Posted by Mad (Flt) Scientist
To avoid giving me a heart attack each time I open PPrune, could someone (OP or a mod) please add a DATE to the thread title?
I agree, wholeheartedly! This is a problem common on internet forums, with words 'today', yesterday' and similar used in thread titles. Consequently, the usefulness of the thread becomes limited very soon thereafter, because if particular specifics about an incident are not known e.g. registration, aircraft type, exact location, it makes searching for the thread quite difficult.

A bit more thought on the title, by those who start such threads, would be an enormous help to all. Please.
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Old 4th Sep 2021, 10:53
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In another forum the following format for thread-titles was introduced, it is mandatory there.

Either:

date | flight number | aircraft type | airport (ICAO) or name of city/region/locility | short description of event
or
date | name of airline + aircraft type | airport (ICAO) or name of city/region/locility | short description of event

Information that is unknown at the type of creating such a thread will be shown with three question marks ???.
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Old 5th Sep 2021, 21:49
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Mods, what say you? This seems like a good policy.
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Old 5th Sep 2021, 22:56
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Try going back to the first post.
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Old 3rd Sep 2023, 17:08
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The National Transportation Safety Board determines the probable cause(s) of this accident to be:

The first officer’s (FO’s) improper decision to attempt to salvage an unstabilized approach by executing a steep left turn to realign the airplane with the runway centerline, and the captain’s failure to intervene after recognizing the FO’s erroneous action, while both ignored stall protection system warnings, which resulted in a left-wing stall and an impact with terrain. Contributing to the accident was the FO's improper deployment of the flight spoilers, which decreased the airplane's stall margin; the captain’s improper setup of the circling approach; and the flight crew’s self-induced pressure to perform and poor crew resource management, which degraded their decision-making.

N605TR Final Report
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