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Old 14th Aug 2018, 18:31
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Crew rest on long haul positioning flights

When positioning on a regular airline on long haul flights is there any credit to be gained by getting a flatbed chair in business class in relation to the flight not counting or redused counting for the FDP under EASA FTL. I’m talking about 11-12 hours of sleep from Europe to west coast USA, South America and Asia. I remember there was something before but can’t find it anymore.

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Just my take on it but it is worth considering if you are using a seat in an aircraft cabin for extending FDP (Class 2 or Class 3 facilities in EASA speak) there are various caveats about reducing disturbance to resting crew such as the rest seat being separated from passengers by a curtain and in the case of a Class 3 “facility” there should not be passengers in adjacent seats.


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I was thinking more along the lines of being a paying pax on another airline on the way to a crew change on my bizjet half way across the world. If I don’t need a full 19 hours rest on the other side of the world the boss might actually send us in true flatbed business class across the globe instead of premium economy.
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Originally Posted by Son of a Beech
I was thinking more along the lines of being a paying pax on another airline on the way to a crew change on my bizjet half way across the world. If I don’t need a full 19 hours rest on the other side of the world the boss might actually send us in true flatbed business class across the globe instead of premium economy.
Are you saying you want to effectively reduce the positioning FDP by inflight rest, and therefore reduce rest on the ground before the second (operating) sector?

TBH I’m still not sure a flatbed helps...

Firstly as I see it EASA Allows in flight rest facilities simply to extend an allowable FDP, not reduce what you log...and secondly a passenger seat, even a flat bed one, even in First, actually in the passenger cabin, will almost certainly not fall into one of the recognised “facilities” categories that EASA defines when it comes to FDP factoring purposes.

That said that is just my quick take on it from a scheduled Ops, usually ULH POV so I could well have missed something.









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Have flown twice with a full flat bed and slept like a baby the whole trip. If I can get that and have a reduced rest when I arrive, hell yeah, I’ll take it any day over an economy comfort seat.
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You have abviously not been around many babies. Babies don’t sleep well at all. But I get your point.
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