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Old 10th Mar 2013, 15:53
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Flying for private owners...

Hi all,

I'm trying to get an idea of people's experiences of the above, and specifically how people got the positions. I've angled all my flying towards this and network constantly around airfields I work from.

EASA CPL MEIR, 1060tt
SET/Multi turbine experience (P1)

Uk centrally based, very current.

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Thanks!
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Any jet ratings?
Can you relocate outside the UK?
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No jet ratings as yet unfortunately, and can relocate as required.....
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Get your self a faa ticket as well there may be quite a few jobs turn up that require both licenses.
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Very true, thought about it in the past, but something else always comes up. Looking into it again.
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FAA ticket is essential in Asia now, more and more people are using part 135, plus FAA is easily validated to cayman , Bermuda, and Isle of Man.
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Any idea of approx. cost of converting JAA ATPL with ERJ 145/135 rating to FAA equivalent? With things picking up in the States (allegedly), it could be that a lot of those guys will start returning home from Asia, etc.eventually which might make it an attractive proposition if the price is right!
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Also you require both licenses to fly an N reg which is based in Europe.

This is still slightly up in the air but has already been passed into law but nobody seems to be enforcing it yet.
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You got a reference to that MJ? I thought it was still a draft.

Converting is easy in that all you need is the FAA written, which is simple and can be done at FSI Farnborough. But you then need a check ride in something. If you have an FAA examiner at your recurrent school you could do on the ERJ.
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Its EU law now went through two years ago I think, with the rest of the EASA stuff.

Three countries gave an extension to it until 2014. The rest didn't bother but arn't actively enforcing it.
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The legislation was adopted in 2011. The Regulation can be found here. EASA have published this table showing the derogations that have been applied by the EASA states. As you will see, on the point in question all but four states (Iceland, Slovenia, Czech Republic and Lichtenstein) have a derogation postponing its applicability until 8 April 2014.

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In general getting a job in corporate is about contacts and who u know, owners are quite picky about who sits up the front. My advice to you is get any jet job, even if with an airline, get those hours up to about 4000 ish, then go corporate. That way when it's command time it happens straight away. In our company we have first officers with 3000 ready for command, and the ops manual says 5000.....so at 300 hours a year, it could be 5-6 years!
Corporate is either the best job in the world or the worst, a good owner and good crew u love everyday...... Crappy owner u might start looking for another job.
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Which ex-airline numpty put that in your OMD?
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To fly a N reg aircraft based in Europe, you now need to have both a FAA and EASA license?

Are the regulators starting to enforce / ramp check this now and does it affect the U.S cargo operators in Europe, with FAA crews based here?

Just curious as I was not aware of the new requirement
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how about if u fly a M reg aircraft? and u got your Isle of man ATPL based on the FAA ATPL?
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You don't actualy get a IOM ATPL but merely a validation.
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Are the regulators starting to enforce / ramp check this now and does it affect the U.S cargo operators in Europe, with FAA crews based here?
The requirement will not apply in most States until April 2014. Iceland, Slovenia, Czech Republic and Lichtenstein are the only states likely to take enforcement measures at the moment.

The requirement relates to aircraft whose operator is based in the EU. It will not apply to third country AOC holders, even if they base aircraft/crew in the EU, as the operator will be based outside of the EU.
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