Aircraft down in Bever Switzerland
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According to some reports here, it's a business jet, type unknown, 2 (probably crew) on board. The aircraft seems to have tried an approach to Samedan, direction unclear, and aborted, then turned and crashed 50 m from the train station at Bever, severing several electric lines. Parts of Samedan and Bever are without power. Crashed shortly after 14 UTC.
METAR: LSZS 191340Z 20008KT 170V230 3000 -SN BR FEW025 BKN040 M06/M10 Q1002 NOSIG
no METAR published after the above. SS: 15:34 UTC.
METAR: LSZS 191340Z 20008KT 170V230 3000 -SN BR FEW025 BKN040 M06/M10 Q1002 NOSIG
no METAR published after the above. SS: 15:34 UTC.
That would belong to Windrose Air according to this (older) source:
JetPhotos.Net Photo » D-IAYL (CN: RB-249) Windrose Air Raytheon 390 Premier I by Davide Mascheroni
However there's no Premier 1 on their official website's fleetlist.
JetPhotos.Net Photo » D-IAYL (CN: RB-249) Windrose Air Raytheon 390 Premier I by Davide Mascheroni
However there's no Premier 1 on their official website's fleetlist.
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Aircraft down in Switzerland?
Just seen an item on an American website (Liberal Guy) :-
"GENEVA – Swiss police say a plane has crashed in the southeast of the country, about 125 miles (200 kilometers) east of the capital, Bern.
Police in the southeast canton of Graubuenden say the plane is on fire and all available rescue forces have been sent to the scene of the crash near the town of Bever.
The statement posted on the police website shortly after 3 p.m. (1400 GMT) gave no indication of the type of plane involved, how many passengers it had or where it was flying from."
"GENEVA – Swiss police say a plane has crashed in the southeast of the country, about 125 miles (200 kilometers) east of the capital, Bern.
Police in the southeast canton of Graubuenden say the plane is on fire and all available rescue forces have been sent to the scene of the crash near the town of Bever.
The statement posted on the police website shortly after 3 p.m. (1400 GMT) gave no indication of the type of plane involved, how many passengers it had or where it was flying from."
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Its D-IAYL.
have alook at the updated link:
http://www.blick.ch/news/schweiz/pri...flammen-162988
Poor guys, rest in peace.
And its operated by Windrose, callsign Quadriga (QGA)
have alook at the updated link:
http://www.blick.ch/news/schweiz/pri...flammen-162988
Poor guys, rest in peace.
And its operated by Windrose, callsign Quadriga (QGA)
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Could have also been a missed approach 03 and wanting to fly a left hand circuit for another attempt. The position / published procedure would just about work out.
No matter how it happened, still very sad. Only just been to LSZS yesterday - been a lovely clear day.
No matter how it happened, still very sad. Only just been to LSZS yesterday - been a lovely clear day.
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You can see the shadow of the power cable towers, reports are saying the aircraft was turning to go around when it hit the power lines???
You can see the shadow of the power cable towers, reports are saying the aircraft was turning to go around when it hit the power lines???
That is the point with Samedan, don't you think? As long as people do not press on with poor vis and low ceilings, nothing happens and it's a great place. But there are too many accidents up there when people insist and insist until it's too late.
SMV is VFR, period. No GPS, no hand made let down, no heaven knows what "knowledge" of the situation helps that. in that valley, 3km and snow is not a place to try out things. Maybe this will only stop after the FOCA closes them down again or imposes strict limits, such as 8 km and ceiling above the highest obstacle. Nobody wants that, but this IS gonna happen if we get more of the same every year.
SMV is VFR, period. No GPS, no hand made let down, no heaven knows what "knowledge" of the situation helps that. in that valley, 3km and snow is not a place to try out things. Maybe this will only stop after the FOCA closes them down again or imposes strict limits, such as 8 km and ceiling above the highest obstacle. Nobody wants that, but this IS gonna happen if we get more of the same every year.
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Yes, many of us are regulars to Samedan, but isn't a bit early to be speculating?
Two guys lost their lives here, and already the armchair accident investigators have determined;
a) missed approach off 03followed by LH circuit
b) approaching 03 with tailwind ....(despite a METAR giving 200/08kts, you just HAD to write something, didn't you?)
c) hit power lines
d) circling off 03 for 21...followed by "no telling at this stage though"
Yes, correct, there is no telling at this stage though, so why tell us?
Is the urge to type something so irresistible?
Two guys lost their lives here, and already the armchair accident investigators have determined;
a) missed approach off 03followed by LH circuit
b) approaching 03 with tailwind ....(despite a METAR giving 200/08kts, you just HAD to write something, didn't you?)
c) hit power lines
d) circling off 03 for 21...followed by "no telling at this stage though"
Yes, correct, there is no telling at this stage though, so why tell us?Is the urge to type something so irresistible?
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I posted the power line map, as it was reported in the press that the aircraft had
hit the power line, thus has nothing to do with being an armchair critic.
A friend of mine flies a 1A out of YYZ, the fact that until now there have never been a fatality involving a Premier - definitely caught my attention.
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hit the power line, thus has nothing to do with being an armchair critic.
A friend of mine flies a 1A out of YYZ, the fact that until now there have never been a fatality involving a Premier - definitely caught my attention.
Plane crashes near Swiss resort - World - IOL | Breaking News | South Africa News | World News | Sport | Business | Entertainment | IOL.co.za
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With a METAR of 3000mtrs and BKN 040, that's hardly VFR WX. Maybe it's time the FOCA make Samedan an approved operators only airport and any AOC company who operates there will have to supply to the FOCA their sim training details.
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I agree with the visually stunning scenery, this video is a little easier on the ears . . .
show approaches on both runways 21 and 03.
YouTube - LSZS Samedan visual approaches
show approaches on both runways 21 and 03.
YouTube - LSZS Samedan visual approaches