Route La Guardia to London City
Route La Guardia to London City
Just thinking about the route over a beer.
The straight line google earth distance is 3011nm.
What would the typical routing be planned and given be for a 2 engine biz jet that can climb direct to FL450. I am aware of the North Atlantic Track System but it appears to only apply to FL410.
Can anyone give me a typical route in both directions. Interested to see how many miles a tyical routing gives compared to the straight line distance.
I forgot to add, does La Guardia, Westchester or London City have any standard holding fuel requirements.
The straight line google earth distance is 3011nm.
What would the typical routing be planned and given be for a 2 engine biz jet that can climb direct to FL450. I am aware of the North Atlantic Track System but it appears to only apply to FL410.
Can anyone give me a typical route in both directions. Interested to see how many miles a tyical routing gives compared to the straight line distance.
I forgot to add, does La Guardia, Westchester or London City have any standard holding fuel requirements.
For a start, your bizjet must be able to fly the 5.5 deg glidepath at London City and the handling pilot must have demonstrated proficiency by flying 3 approaches elsewhere with such a steep glidepath.
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US - UK Route
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Not exactly the same route, but I know it will help you ...
I just did this some weeks ago ... Newark - Luton .. kinda close ...
KEWR..FIR..MERIT..HFD J42 BOS J575 YQY J577 YQX..KOBEV..5050N..
5240N..5330N..5420N..DOGAL..BEXET..LIFFY UL975 WAL LORE4F EGGW
Distance 3087 NM
Keep in mind the tracks change depending on direction, time, wind, etc.
Regards...
Not exactly the same route, but I know it will help you ...
I just did this some weeks ago ... Newark - Luton .. kinda close ...
KEWR..FIR..MERIT..HFD J42 BOS J575 YQY J577 YQX..KOBEV..5050N..
5240N..5330N..5420N..DOGAL..BEXET..LIFFY UL975 WAL LORE4F EGGW
Distance 3087 NM
Keep in mind the tracks change depending on direction, time, wind, etc.
Regards...
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La Guardia is a domestic airport, you'd have to clear customs somewhere else first. They have a few flights from Canada which all have to do immigration & customs before departure.
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Not true, I've landed international at KLGA many times, from Canada and Europe. Customs must be pre-arranged and eAPIS done, of course.
GF
Not true, I've landed international at KLGA many times, from Canada and Europe. Customs must be pre-arranged and eAPIS done, of course.
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The NAT Track system is, in simple terms, a way of regularising traffic across the pond. It takes account of the jetstream and the peak traffic flows and publishes 'standard routes' which airlines can choose and which creat a multi-track flow east or westbound. This means multiple aircraft can enter the structure at the same time and level but separated by at least 1 degree of latitude. It deals with the common cruising levels (up to FL410). If you are at FL450 you should be able to fly a 'random' track choosing your own lat points at 40, 30, 20 and 10 W. This might help with your range profile.
Fuel reserves required are standard IFR. London City has a slightly higher DA because of the steep approach, but Luton or Stansted are close by. The routing in can be a bit extended if it is very busy (you may go as far East as EGMC before turning west for the arrival).
Note the caution about crew and aircraft qualification for operating into LCY.
Fuel reserves required are standard IFR. London City has a slightly higher DA because of the steep approach, but Luton or Stansted are close by. The routing in can be a bit extended if it is very busy (you may go as far East as EGMC before turning west for the arrival).
Note the caution about crew and aircraft qualification for operating into LCY.
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The "problem" would be the steep approach and relatively short rwy at LCY. I believe the only aircraft around that can do the flight and are approved into LCY are the Falcon 900 (easy) and the 7X....
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Fuel reserves required are standard IFR. London City has a slightly higher DA because of the steep approach, but Luton or Stansted are close by. The routing in can be a bit extended if it is very busy (you may go as far East as EGMC before turning west for the arrival).
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I am pretty sure the Falcon 900 B and C and possibly EX are not approved (performance) for commercial ops in and out of LCY.....only the EX easy.
Please feel free to correct me if I am wrong.
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Please feel free to correct me if I am wrong.
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Just checked lcacc.org and found this:
"FA900B (subject to individual ability to complete public transport factored landing distances)"
Not sure where this puts you performance wise, but I am pretty sure you will find yourself being very tight on LDR with any "normal" landing weights.....
"FA900B (subject to individual ability to complete public transport factored landing distances)"
Not sure where this puts you performance wise, but I am pretty sure you will find yourself being very tight on LDR with any "normal" landing weights.....
