Blink 3 Mustangs up for sale . . .
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Highflight, many times I have seen quotes on here that have tended to slag off some of my Clients. I have let go those comments knowing full well that what they think and say, are not in line with what's actually going on. I therefore tend to let my Clients get on with their jobs and let their performance answer any long standing questions.
May I suggest you turn it down and let Blink do the talking.... I'm sure they don't need your sniping to enable them to continue in their day to day travails.
May I suggest you turn it down and let Blink do the talking.... I'm sure they don't need your sniping to enable them to continue in their day to day travails.
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LGW Vulture,
No-one is slagging anyone off, we are discussing a theory. Blink have very deliberately courted PR, with claims such as Europes First Air Taxi Service, 30% cheaper than other alternatives etc etc etc. They did this to be noticed and discussed, and it has been successfull. The claims that they were going to revolutionise the charter business are unlikely to go un-noticed and as such they put themselves up for judgement, the fact that some people agree and some people don't does not constitute slagging off, simply discussion of a topic.
Their marketing is proving succesfull at obtaining many direct clients, I have spoken to more than one broker who has lost clients to them. But as yet no-body knows if it is going to be successfull as in increasing the balance sheet or showing a return.
If we were discussing the Merits of an Apple Mac over a PC< or a Blackberry over an iPhone, nobody would get all bent out of shape, it's just not normal.
PB
No-one is slagging anyone off, we are discussing a theory. Blink have very deliberately courted PR, with claims such as Europes First Air Taxi Service, 30% cheaper than other alternatives etc etc etc. They did this to be noticed and discussed, and it has been successfull. The claims that they were going to revolutionise the charter business are unlikely to go un-noticed and as such they put themselves up for judgement, the fact that some people agree and some people don't does not constitute slagging off, simply discussion of a topic.
Their marketing is proving succesfull at obtaining many direct clients, I have spoken to more than one broker who has lost clients to them. But as yet no-body knows if it is going to be successfull as in increasing the balance sheet or showing a return.
If we were discussing the Merits of an Apple Mac over a PC< or a Blackberry over an iPhone, nobody would get all bent out of shape, it's just not normal.
PB
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Phil, you miss my logic. I'm telling Highflight to let Blink answer the questions not him! If they are as sound as he likes to make out, then we will see that in their survival alone.
I'm with you guys in that I think it doesn't look good given they are showing airframes for sale already, in what is the most depressed business aircraft market ever known.
And, if slagging off is deserved, then so be it.
I'm with you guys in that I think it doesn't look good given they are showing airframes for sale already, in what is the most depressed business aircraft market ever known.
And, if slagging off is deserved, then so be it.
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LGW,
I didn't misunderstand you, I got what you were saying, just didn't think we were slagging them off.
"i'm not convinced that the model will succeed" = not slagging off.
"They are doing a cr@p job" = slagging off.
I'm pretty sure that no-one of any importance at Blink gives a flying F&*$k what I think, and are probably less than impressed that this daft tugger is being their self appointed spokesman.
Oh well,
I didn't misunderstand you, I got what you were saying, just didn't think we were slagging them off.
"i'm not convinced that the model will succeed" = not slagging off.
"They are doing a cr@p job" = slagging off.
I'm pretty sure that no-one of any importance at Blink gives a flying F&*$k what I think, and are probably less than impressed that this daft tugger is being their self appointed spokesman.
Oh well,
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Wow! There are some really ruffled feathers out there - Blink is clearly a company causing waves in the UK industry (if not Europe?)!! If you want a revolution get the people talking....
The truth is none of us know what true position Blink is in at the moment - regardless of reports from Companies house (no company is truly transparant) - and their management is probably sharp enough to know that sending out the right messages to the market (including employees!) supports their business.
The acid test is 2 fold:
1. How long have they been around? If less than year then the news that they are selling assets is not good. If they are passed year 1 then they have a higher probability of survival.
2. The market will decide. If they have a good product, a strong price and have not eroded their margins by pumping their investors cash into buying market share then they will see a return correlated with the amount of business they win.
Yes we can speculate untils the mustangs come home what their intentions are and it could be whole number of permutations...e.g buying out shareholders? increasing liquidity? Restructuring the balance sheet for the purpose of sale?
Or simply trimming to meet projected demand? etc.. etc...
Some of the guys I occassionally fly with see their cute little jets at various European airports on a regular basis so they seem busy. Client feedback? Who knows but if they are getting repeat business and are winning long term clients they cant be all bad! They appear to have high visibility backed by a strong brand which is slowly getting recognised.
I am going to put a bet that England have a 50-1 chance of beating Germany on Sunday and a 2-1 chance that Blink are undertaking long term posturing to sell their business in 2-4 years if they can hang on long enough. Any takers?
The truth is none of us know what true position Blink is in at the moment - regardless of reports from Companies house (no company is truly transparant) - and their management is probably sharp enough to know that sending out the right messages to the market (including employees!) supports their business.
The acid test is 2 fold:
1. How long have they been around? If less than year then the news that they are selling assets is not good. If they are passed year 1 then they have a higher probability of survival.
2. The market will decide. If they have a good product, a strong price and have not eroded their margins by pumping their investors cash into buying market share then they will see a return correlated with the amount of business they win.
Yes we can speculate untils the mustangs come home what their intentions are and it could be whole number of permutations...e.g buying out shareholders? increasing liquidity? Restructuring the balance sheet for the purpose of sale?
Or simply trimming to meet projected demand? etc.. etc...Some of the guys I occassionally fly with see their cute little jets at various European airports on a regular basis so they seem busy. Client feedback? Who knows but if they are getting repeat business and are winning long term clients they cant be all bad! They appear to have high visibility backed by a strong brand which is slowly getting recognised.
I am going to put a bet that England have a 50-1 chance of beating Germany on Sunday and a 2-1 chance that Blink are undertaking long term posturing to sell their business in 2-4 years if they can hang on long enough. Any takers?
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Maybe pressure from this pprune thread???, but I note that Blink removed two of the listings for their (for sale) Mustangs - and currently one listed officially for sale.
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ok Phil when you are back from shoving you head up where ever
and pissing around on pprune
please get on with the business of selling charters as I have only frown 78hrs this month.
if our poor downtrodden crews ever stop whinging we really will be in trouble.
besided we will need the money when the poor deluded tosser sues us!!
and pissing around on pprune
please get on with the business of selling charters as I have only frown 78hrs this month.
if our poor downtrodden crews ever stop whinging we really will be in trouble.
besided we will need the money when the poor deluded tosser sues us!!
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Robb,
I'd seriously doubt that this thread carries that much weight at Blink Towers, just amongst their FO's.
MKB.
Enjoy your 4 days touring the Garden route you poor downtrodden sould you.
Phil
I'd seriously doubt that this thread carries that much weight at Blink Towers, just amongst their FO's.
MKB.
Enjoy your 4 days touring the Garden route you poor downtrodden sould you.
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Maybe pressure from this pprune thread???, but I note that Blink removed two of the listings for their (for sale) Mustangs - and currently one listed officially for sale.
This way you don't saturise the secondhand market of a particular type 
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No RYR,
Are we not overestimating the influence of this thread? No offence to us, but if my company was getting a bit of a beasting by us lot, I don't think I'd care that much.
PB
Are we not overestimating the influence of this thread? No offence to us, but if my company was getting a bit of a beasting by us lot, I don't think I'd care that much.
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I hope my company does not get Beasting up
But yes and no... However the power of Google is such is that anybody doing any background search on Blink might end up here..
But yes and no... However the power of Google is such is that anybody doing any background search on Blink might end up here..
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Thanks phil
does that mean I get 3 days off
I think I should change my user name to Poor (old) Deluded Tosser, but then everyone would know who I am!!!
Have you sold anything today you lazy bastard.
does that mean I get 3 days off
I think I should change my user name to Poor (old) Deluded Tosser, but then everyone would know who I am!!!
Have you sold anything today you lazy bastard.
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Is blink not selling the a/c as they made pilots redundant and couldn't fly the planes they have?
As someone who has worked for a start up I do notice that many of there staff become like "religious converts" who do not see issue apparent to others. PR is a two edged sword so no complaining when the claims are put under the microscope.
I do not fly ethier the mustang or the P100 but I have to say the P100 seems to me a superior product.
As someone who has worked for a start up I do notice that many of there staff become like "religious converts" who do not see issue apparent to others. PR is a two edged sword so no complaining when the claims are put under the microscope.
I do not fly ethier the mustang or the P100 but I have to say the P100 seems to me a superior product.