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Old 5th Mar 2010, 16:04
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Just thought that losing a donkey when inverted could be a problem, but, yes, you are right, Mr Hoover is eminently capable of it. I once saw a guy do the same roll,low,on take-off at Oshkosh in a Spitfire of all things. Us Brits were loud in the condemnation of that!! Sometimes not very good airshow flying in the USA!!
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Lets not forget Roly Falk at Farnborough, rolling a Vulcan, and he used to fly it single crew!
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You all know as well as I do, aerobatics in a non aerobatic aircraft, flown properly and with precision, will pull no more g than a good steep turn.

However, you only have to "screw up" the maneuver and if you survive the aircraft may well be overstressed. Would the guilty pilot or crew own up and get engineering in to check the aircraft for overstress? Hell no. Claim up is the most likely but wrong, course of events. Here lies the problem and someone else has to strap their backsides to that aircraft.

Years ago in another life a cessna 180 flew to pieces that I knew of and it had been know to have been aerobated at some stage. Metal has a very long memory. Try and remember that.

If I catch anyone aerobating a non aerobatic aircraft I will do my up most to see the appropriate authorities are informed ASAP. Sorry but that sort of behaviour is just not on.
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Old 6th Mar 2010, 15:15
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That's exactly where I'm coming from. Performing aerobatic manoeuvers outside an aerobatic category aircraft proofs a very non-mature pilot attitude - it violates basic priniciples of good airmenship.

A barrel roll falls per definition under aerobatics (AoB>60°). A Pilatus PC-12 is obviousely not certified for aerobatics. So I would still be interested in my initial question: does anybody know about a video showing r/h cockpit view during a full barrel roll of a PC-12?
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Old 6th Mar 2010, 17:38
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A barrel roll falls per definition under aerobatics (AoB>60°). A Pilatus PC-12 is obviousely not certified for aerobatics.
Thanks god you can do more than 60 ° AoB with a PC-12 !

I don't know if there's a video but I've seen a picture of an "inverted" PC12 over the alps (during a barrel roll). It was almost 6 years ago.
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Old 6th Mar 2010, 19:20
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Sorry, Hudechs.
You're first paragraph of the previous post is far too sweeping.
To describe Bob Hoover, Roly Falk, Tex Hopkins et al as immature pilots is just a weeeeeennnnyyyyyy bit insulting [although I don't think that was your intention]
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I do believe FAA stipulated Hoovers commander be put on the experimental category in acknowledgement of any possible extra "stresses" placed on the old girl.

Him & Yeagar lived my dream...bestards
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