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Good info from all and some of my thoughts as a CP
Wow, now that I have a clearer picture of what transpired, I have to say that the next time I meet the CP in question (how many N registered LR45s can there be at Bournemouth?), I will certainly look at him in a different light!
I am trying hard to help close a deal with my boss to buy a Lear 60, and I've already picked my crew (sorry guys, I wish I could offer all of you good people a job) in case the deal is successful. If we get the aircraft, it will either stay N registered as it is at the moment, or register it with Isle of Man. Regardless, I would send my crew to Flight Safety (I have a very good relationship with them) and the company will pay for the initial type as well as all recurrent (once a year). After a time, I would probably have them typed in our Challenger as well, as I intend to get typed in the 60, too. That would mean that all of my crew, and myself, would be going to school once every 6 months, alternating between the CL604 and the LR60, which is a minimum as far as I'm concerned.
I have no issue with making a potential pilot employee sign or post a bond to try to insure that he or she does not up and run off with the qualifications (type rating or recurrency) which I've just paid for. That very thing has happened to me before! Another challenge for any CP is the situation that occurs when you give a low-time pilot "a chance", especially if they show many other qualities as a person or employee, and their training and experience indicates that they should have a certain level of skill. The problem is when you send them off for training and then find that they are struggling to get through, or maybe they get through okay, but then when you start flying with them, they can't fly worth crap! It's worse when they are a nice person - great personality and easy to get along with - because then you invest more time in them in an effort to bring them along. Sometimes it works, but often it doesn't. That is a painful situation to have to deal with!
I have to say that the actions, if true, of the CP at Bournemouth are reprehensible and very odd! But I can also tell you that unfortunately, there are a large number of pilots who's work ethics are nearly non-existent and all they ever do is whine about the situation they are in (no matter how good you make it for them within the constraints of your budget and the mission requirements), and they always are looking for that "better" job, not having learned the truth of the saying "the grass always seems greener on the other side of the hill"!
Before any of you complain too loudly about salaries and benefits, you have to understand that these things are market driven, and you have to look at the business of the aircraft owner or operator and research the state of the market that THEY are in! When I see that my boss's hotels are doing badly, I don't go looking for a bonus at Christmas, and in fact, I am always prepared to take a salary cut, or stay in cheaper hotels on the road, etc., and I am always negotiating cheaper fuel, hangarage, parking, lav and water service, etc. with every FBO at every airport we go to. It's a fact of bizjet flying today that the Captain at least must do this and get very good at it!
Good luck to all of us in this very challenging career (and here I thought the challenge was in learning to fly when I first started, and now I know the challenge is in getting - and hanging on to - a good job)!
Keith
I am trying hard to help close a deal with my boss to buy a Lear 60, and I've already picked my crew (sorry guys, I wish I could offer all of you good people a job) in case the deal is successful. If we get the aircraft, it will either stay N registered as it is at the moment, or register it with Isle of Man. Regardless, I would send my crew to Flight Safety (I have a very good relationship with them) and the company will pay for the initial type as well as all recurrent (once a year). After a time, I would probably have them typed in our Challenger as well, as I intend to get typed in the 60, too. That would mean that all of my crew, and myself, would be going to school once every 6 months, alternating between the CL604 and the LR60, which is a minimum as far as I'm concerned.
I have no issue with making a potential pilot employee sign or post a bond to try to insure that he or she does not up and run off with the qualifications (type rating or recurrency) which I've just paid for. That very thing has happened to me before! Another challenge for any CP is the situation that occurs when you give a low-time pilot "a chance", especially if they show many other qualities as a person or employee, and their training and experience indicates that they should have a certain level of skill. The problem is when you send them off for training and then find that they are struggling to get through, or maybe they get through okay, but then when you start flying with them, they can't fly worth crap! It's worse when they are a nice person - great personality and easy to get along with - because then you invest more time in them in an effort to bring them along. Sometimes it works, but often it doesn't. That is a painful situation to have to deal with!
I have to say that the actions, if true, of the CP at Bournemouth are reprehensible and very odd! But I can also tell you that unfortunately, there are a large number of pilots who's work ethics are nearly non-existent and all they ever do is whine about the situation they are in (no matter how good you make it for them within the constraints of your budget and the mission requirements), and they always are looking for that "better" job, not having learned the truth of the saying "the grass always seems greener on the other side of the hill"!
Before any of you complain too loudly about salaries and benefits, you have to understand that these things are market driven, and you have to look at the business of the aircraft owner or operator and research the state of the market that THEY are in! When I see that my boss's hotels are doing badly, I don't go looking for a bonus at Christmas, and in fact, I am always prepared to take a salary cut, or stay in cheaper hotels on the road, etc., and I am always negotiating cheaper fuel, hangarage, parking, lav and water service, etc. with every FBO at every airport we go to. It's a fact of bizjet flying today that the Captain at least must do this and get very good at it!
Good luck to all of us in this very challenging career (and here I thought the challenge was in learning to fly when I first started, and now I know the challenge is in getting - and hanging on to - a good job)!
Keith
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DITTO.BREATH OF FRESH AIR.KEEP IT UP.THE INDUSTRY NEEDS THIS KIND OF ATTITUDE.BON CHANCE WITH THE L60.ALL THEIR CREWS SEEM TO REALLY LIKE IT.INCIDENTLY THERE WAS SOME L40/45 SIM DUE TO S
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