Shell Fires pilots
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Heard today that two pilots flying Executive Committee for Royal Dutch Shell were recently suspended because they challenged the operating procedures. Seems Shell is happy to impose standards for their contractors but less happy to follow strict standards themselves. They use Part 145 for maintenance but refuse to adopt EU OPS for the ops side. Now the battle goes to Court in the Netherlands as one pilot has filed a lawsuit. Not good....SAI already lost a case of constructive dismissal with one of their advisors recently. So much for the ''positive safety culture' that the SAI MD preaches throughout the industry...... Double standards as usual...
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I have seen similar situations at another large oil company. Holding contractors to a high standard while picking and choosing what they adhere to as it suits them within the company department.
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I have first hand experience with Shell of what Sherman wrote. I flew a contract (luckily only for two weeks) for Shell and can only agree, they are extremely anal and demanding regarding the expectation on contractors and can be very difficult to work for. As far as their own oil exploration operation I was less than impressed to say the least. I'm all for safety but they went so far making it almost impractical flying for them. Luckily I "missed" their audit of this particular operation 
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Oil companies in general are tough on safety, but Shell takes the cake.
. Oil companies in general are tough on safety, but Shell takes the cake.
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Heared they are a very safe outfit as well. Surprises me big time why not adopt to EU OPS, are the Shell executives happy to fly with fatigued pilots?
The ISBAO working rules are very different from the EU rules for work and rest times.
The ISBAO working rules are very different from the EU rules for work and rest times.
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Having worked for the other Major in europe I can only state that standards throughout the Oil industry are paramount and fed down to the flight department, transportation department.
I think its too easy to make judgement on this one, as far as I know Shell operate to high standards and very rarely use contract crews, this is to keep all the SOP standard etc.
If some one has been terminated its a very personal thing and I dont think PPrune is the way to publicise this, we are all in difficult times in the industry.
I think its too easy to make judgement on this one, as far as I know Shell operate to high standards and very rarely use contract crews, this is to keep all the SOP standard etc.
If some one has been terminated its a very personal thing and I dont think PPrune is the way to publicise this, we are all in difficult times in the industry.
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If this outfit is not operating to public transport rules then it begs the question, Why not? If the operation is so good and proper with "hand picked" crews, decent maintenance etc., it should just be a formality should it not?
It is a question of money IMHO. If they are out to save so much money, then where else are they "saving" money?
Years ago I was part of a team that helped set up an operation for a large MNC and the first thing the accountants asked us, when they got involved, was this. "How can we save money, in this department?" I shot back and asked them, who in this company knows anything about the safe operation of an aircraft? When no answer was forthcoming I politely tried to get across, the question should have been this. "We know nothing about operating an aircraft safely, so what can we do to assist you?" Hell would freeze over before they asked that, believe me.
It is a question of money IMHO. If they are out to save so much money, then where else are they "saving" money?
Years ago I was part of a team that helped set up an operation for a large MNC and the first thing the accountants asked us, when they got involved, was this. "How can we save money, in this department?" I shot back and asked them, who in this company knows anything about the safe operation of an aircraft? When no answer was forthcoming I politely tried to get across, the question should have been this. "We know nothing about operating an aircraft safely, so what can we do to assist you?" Hell would freeze over before they asked that, believe me.
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Flexjet,
Dont you think the above comment is a little harsh? Not all of us are fortunate enough to operate only from 'civilisation'...
Why would flying to Iraq make them cowboy pilots?
What about UN pilots? Are they all cowboys too?
Regards
Dont you think the above comment is a little harsh? Not all of us are fortunate enough to operate only from 'civilisation'...
Why would flying to Iraq make them cowboy pilots?
What about UN pilots? Are they all cowboys too?
Regards
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This is a country under war, with thousands of people killed every year.
I consider this country as not safe for civil operations.
Soldiers have no choice, they are sent there or not. As for UN pilots, I don't know their status but I don't imagine they expect to fly to the Maldives or Mauritius on a regular basis...
I consider this country as not safe for civil operations.
Soldiers have no choice, they are sent there or not. As for UN pilots, I don't know their status but I don't imagine they expect to fly to the Maldives or Mauritius on a regular basis...
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Went into Sulaymaniyah ORSU earlier this year. Insurers were happy to cover it with no additional premium (was in and out in a day, crews staying in the airport), Crew were happy to do it (See previous)), handing agent was very good.
We had more problems with Pakistan two months ago.
We had more problems with Pakistan two months ago.
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Well that's official then - My operation is full of Cowboys !! We go to all the nice places Iraq, Chad, Guinea - anywhere the Company feels it can safely make money and pay for the all it's cowboys !!
Off course we don't bother with insurance,security, Embassy advice etc etc we just get in "light the fires" and off we jolly well go !! We don't go to great lengths to make sure it's safe - No according to FLEXJET we're just - a bunch cowboys !!
Anyway what has this got to do with Shell releasing Pilots ?
What a t.....r
Off course we don't bother with insurance,security, Embassy advice etc etc we just get in "light the fires" and off we jolly well go !! We don't go to great lengths to make sure it's safe - No according to FLEXJET we're just - a bunch cowboys !!
Anyway what has this got to do with Shell releasing Pilots ?
What a t.....r