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Old 2nd Jan 2010, 15:30
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It's been a while for me but if you are not current at KASE, aren't you required to do 'special procedures training?'
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It's been a while for me but if you are not current at KASE, aren't you required to do 'special procedures training?'
For Part 91 no. Now as for the special procedure approaches, yes, even Part 91 must have the special procedures training.
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SIDs are base on normal operations -- not OEI

Some posters are saying I need to have the climb requirements met anyway, and some are saying just fly the valley. I always thought that if you are IFR and assigned an obstacle DP you must be able to comply to climb with OEI. If not assigned and depart VFR, you can see and avoid.
SIDs assume all engine operations. This fact has been spelled out quite explicitly in AC 120-91.


7. TERPS CRITERIA VERSUS ONE-ENGINE-INOPERATIVE REQUIREMENTS.
a. Standard Instrument Departures (SID) or Departure Procedures (DP) based on TERPS or ICAO Procedures for Air Navigation Services—Aircraft Operations (PANS-OPS) are based on normal (all engines operating) operations. Thus, one-engine-inoperative obstacle clearance requirements and the all-engines-operating TERPS requirements are independent, and one-engine-inoperative procedures do not need to meet TERPS requirements.
Also see AIM (change 3) 5-2-8 -- page 109 of the .pdf file.

The APG web site has a number of videos (right side of the home page) that may help clear up some of the long standing confusion, urban legends and old wives' tales.
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