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King Air crash at Egelsbach Airfield (EDFE)

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Old 26th Nov 2011, 21:48
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Unfortunately, one of the drugs the PIC took lowers the alcohol tolerance. Thus, the level found could be quite critical.
I think it is interesting that the PIC had a valid medical with his underlying disease and the combination of drugs he took.
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Old 27th Nov 2011, 09:24
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Hi Rory, but there lies the problem: how should an AME find out about this condition and about these drugs? This guy obviously did not mention his condition, nor the drugs he was taking. The standard tests that are done on our urine and blood do not look for these things. If you keep your mouth shut, you can continue like this until the illness has become so bad that you cannot hide it anymore.
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Old 28th Nov 2011, 09:51
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Amazing - what the BFU report says - in 400 ft. the ceiling was 5/8 to 7/8 - don´t know what they where up to - having other Airports with better Met Reports in their reach... two Pilots - three opinions ?
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Old 28th Nov 2011, 10:45
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idiotic ZÜP (check of reliability, a background check, only done in Germany).
Could you tell us more about this - what does the acronym mean? Zuverlassigkeit über personn something or other? And what does the check involve? Why was it introduced?
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Old 28th Nov 2011, 11:40
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ZÜP means ZuverlässigkeitsÜberPrüfung

Involves background check via every 3 letter institution Germany has...like

KraftfahrtBundesAmt - Federal Agency for Kraftfahrt (where your points on the driving licence are)

BundesKriminalAmt - equivalent of the FBI

BundesNachrichtenDienst - equivalent of the CIA

Regular Police back ground check....

I may have forgotten one or two agencies.

The procedure is to ask the LKA for the ZÜP, they start the whole process and after 4-6 weeks you get a pdf with your ZÜP.

If you hold a german licence and you´re not German, then you don´t need the ZÜP (I was told...dunno wether that is really the case)
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Old 28th Nov 2011, 11:43
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If you hold a german licence and you´re not German, then you don´t need the ZÜP.
You do! (Quoting from luftrecht-info.de: "Bei Ausländern: Auskunft aus Ausländerzentralregister, sowie im Einzelfall an die zuständige Ausländerbehörde").
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Old 28th Nov 2011, 14:44
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Your right, thats what the LBA says....

Background check for persons resident outside the Federal Republic of Germany:
Persons resident outside the Federal Republic of Germany contact the Niedersächsische
Landesbehörde für Straßenbau und Verkehr, Sophienstraße 5, 38304 Wolfenbüttel
(www.strassenbau.niedersachsen.de).application for a background check has been filed
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