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Old 17th Nov 2009, 22:42
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I'm not trying to be a vulture, i'm an NJE G driver and just interested in the occurance. Was it a classic?
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Old 18th Nov 2009, 05:45
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You will find some information on the Bom Dia portal.
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Old 18th Nov 2009, 19:26
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That was the e-mail we all got. Come on, someone has pictures. No one has answered if it was a classic or a EaSy
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Old 18th Nov 2009, 21:28
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CS-DFE.....work it out from there....
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Old 19th Nov 2009, 10:00
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Wow this is surprisingly hard work. I thought the way Pprune worked was incident +1hr pictures published. +2 numerous hypotheses put forward as to cause. Then for the following 3 weeks discussion and arguments on minute details.
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Old 19th Nov 2009, 10:49
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Check PM vino.
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Old 21st Nov 2009, 06:56
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I have had to refresh this post to keep it on Page 1 of Biz Jets etc.
I can't believe you guys can just leave it at this, and wait for the AAIB report as suggested by that boring git Flintster at post#2.
Let's have loads more pointless conjecture, together with some discussions on how the brake system works on an HS 125, or in fact any other aircraft not actually produced by M. Dassault.
Don't let me down chaps.
Anyone know what the make of the first attending fire-engine was?
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Old 21st Nov 2009, 08:15
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I am fairly certain it was a Carmichael.

A big Yellow one.
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Old 22nd Nov 2009, 14:30
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Wot, not a red Dennis?
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Old 22nd Nov 2009, 19:16
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Green Goddess?
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Old 22nd Nov 2009, 19:43
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The Green Goddess?

What was Diana Moran doing on board? Was she in a leotard (flame retardant maybe?)

I sense this threads closing soon...............

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Old 11th Dec 2010, 21:13
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and discuss....

Air Accidents Investigation: Falcon 2000, CS-DFE
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Old 11th Dec 2010, 23:32
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Has the aircraft returned to service? I see lots of photos on the net of CS-DFE, but none taken since the incident.

PS typhoid, appreciate the update - thanks.
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Old 12th Dec 2010, 02:56
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Me think it will be a long time before service.

400c will for sure have damaged the heat treatment in the wing of the 6061, which is one of the most common alloys used in a/c. Melting point is around 660c.
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Old 12th Dec 2010, 07:47
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Wrong my friend, the Phoenix flies again.....
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Old 12th Dec 2010, 08:27
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who fixed it? the same guys that did the breaks?
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Old 12th Dec 2010, 08:34
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After eight accelerate-stop runs, each one faster than the last, is it really surprising the brakes were getting a bit hot
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Old 12th Dec 2010, 10:07
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In the old days it was called common sense.

These days you have to go on a Human Factors course, and someone has to explain it to you!

That brakes get hotter the more you use them, obviously was not covered on the course.
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Old 12th Dec 2010, 16:16
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the report from the authorities is very good IMHO;

Critic is easy; aftermath talk is even easier. The aircraft flies again, and nobody got hurt... case closed.... next please ?

ho yes, the day you will have your plane in an AAIB; just hope to be able to read it...and had worked for a fair employer...
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Old 12th Dec 2010, 16:52
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"The salient FDR parameters are presented at Figure 2
and show that in total, eight high-speed taxi runs were
completed over a period of just under 16 minutes. The
first seven runs achieved speeds of between 60 kt and
90 kt".

A 34 page report to get to the cause of a brake fire. Where has simple common sense gone these days? Unbelievable that any professional pilot would not be asking questions after two "RTO's".
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