Avanti down on ice cap
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Avanti down on ice cap
Any details on the Piaggio Avanti that was enroute to BGBW and went down in the icecap after diverting to Sondrestrom?
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CADORS number 2009A0990, 16 Oct 09
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N108GF, PIAGGIO P180, enroute from Keflavik (BIKF) to Narsarsuaq (BGBW) was cleared out of controlled airspace and reported leaving 19,500 ft. at 13:29. At 14:10Z Sondrestrom Flight Information Centre (FIC) called to advise that N108GF had missed the approach and requested an IFR clearance to Kangerlussuaq (BGSF) at 30,000 ft. Gander Oceanic was unable to issue clearance at 30,000 ft. due to traffic. BGSF FIC further advised that the pilot reported fuel critical and was climbing to 30,000 ft. Traffic was not in close proximity to the flight. Gander Oceanic was unable to talk to the flight and was unsure of the actions taken by the pilot. The flight was estimated to have exited Gander airspace at 14:45Z. Reykjavík (BIRK) Area Control Centre (ACC) later advised that the flight was over due at the destination and had advised Kangerlussuaq that the fuel situation was very serious. ETA for Kangerlussuaq was approximately 15:15Z and as of 17:32Z no arrival report had been received. At 18:00Z BIRK ACC supervisor called to advise that the aircraft had been located on the ice cap. The pilot had survived and was being transported to Kangerlussuaq.
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N108GF, PIAGGIO P180, enroute from Keflavik (BIKF) to Narsarsuaq (BGBW) was cleared out of controlled airspace and reported leaving 19,500 ft. at 13:29. At 14:10Z Sondrestrom Flight Information Centre (FIC) called to advise that N108GF had missed the approach and requested an IFR clearance to Kangerlussuaq (BGSF) at 30,000 ft. Gander Oceanic was unable to issue clearance at 30,000 ft. due to traffic. BGSF FIC further advised that the pilot reported fuel critical and was climbing to 30,000 ft. Traffic was not in close proximity to the flight. Gander Oceanic was unable to talk to the flight and was unsure of the actions taken by the pilot. The flight was estimated to have exited Gander airspace at 14:45Z. Reykjavík (BIRK) Area Control Centre (ACC) later advised that the flight was over due at the destination and had advised Kangerlussuaq that the fuel situation was very serious. ETA for Kangerlussuaq was approximately 15:15Z and as of 17:32Z no arrival report had been received. At 18:00Z BIRK ACC supervisor called to advise that the aircraft had been located on the ice cap. The pilot had survived and was being transported to Kangerlussuaq.
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Maybe there are some Nazi radio opps still hiding around the locality and continue to send out false bearing and weather reports, mind you this could be a good investment, the P38 recovered from the cap was worth over fifty times its original cost by the time it was rebuilt!
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If I didnt have sufficient fuel for the alternate I would declare and emergency and fly the ILS all the way to the runway.
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I don't care who you are or what you think of this guy airdriver123, capt.babydoll, your posts are totally inappropriate. Enjoying the misfortunes of others is a very shallow view on the world. I don't wish harm on others, even those whom I may have issues with, let alone publicly enjoy their misfortunes.
Someone could have died in this, a family would have lost a loved one, and all you have to do about this is laugh. How would your family feel if someone laughed at your misfortune that could have resulted (or worse DID) in death?
These forums are to help us all learn, grow and contribute within aviation and, even in JB, there is little tolerance for this sort of behaviour.
Have a little think dude.
Someone could have died in this, a family would have lost a loved one, and all you have to do about this is laugh. How would your family feel if someone laughed at your misfortune that could have resulted (or worse DID) in death?
These forums are to help us all learn, grow and contribute within aviation and, even in JB, there is little tolerance for this sort of behaviour.
Have a little think dude.
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I believe the post that have been removed where actually apporiate for the person in question. Every one knew he is OK from the crash except for his latino pride. He is one of those persons that knew everything and always criticized everyone elses decision making. If he did not like a fellow worker he was really hard on them and bad mouthed them.
So what goes around comes around!
Do not jump to conclusions so fast if you do not know the person in question.
So what goes around comes around!
Do not jump to conclusions so fast if you do not know the person in question.
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Hi MoreTimeOff
Very true indeed. So why slag someone else in such a negative manner if what you say is correct? It's going to come right back to you at some stage. I'd personally rather that someone learn from their mistakes and give them a chance to better themselves and improve. But that's just me, giving people the benefit of the doubt which gives me less stress in the end. For the most part, I've had successful outcomes.
Each to their own I suppose.
Oh and one last thing...
Have you seen the official accident report? How about them conclusions and jumping to them? Just a thought.
So what goes around comes around!
Each to their own I suppose.
Oh and one last thing...
Do not jump to conclusions so fast if you do not know the person in question.
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Who Was The Pilot? Ran Out Of Fuel? What? Omg, What An Idiot, Everyone At Avantair Is Talking About It
I believe the post that have been removed where actually apporiate for the person in question. Every one knew he is OK from the crash except for his latino pride. He is one of those persons that knew everything and always criticized everyone elses decision making. If he did not like a fellow worker he was really hard on them and bad mouthed them.
Why don't some people know that engines run longer with fuel going to them
So what goes around comes around!
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Guys - a supermod has been through this thread & cleaned up what he felt was "personal" - a number of posts have disappeared - forum mods had been cleaning this thread up, removing personal identification and direct personal attacks but clearly it wasn't enough to satisfy Health & Safety and there's been a clean-out. My advice is keep it clean - avoid any personal attacks.
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