Netjets Europe Job Losses
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Netjets Europe Job Losses
It seems the axe has been felt in Lisbon with 80 plus being dismissed today. All office based and from all levels. It is believed the same is happening in London and Zurich.
It appears the new "boss" from the US was not impressed on a recent visit to Europe and it looks like this is the start of a massive clear out and major changes are afoot at NJE.
It appears the new "boss" from the US was not impressed on a recent visit to Europe and it looks like this is the start of a massive clear out and major changes are afoot at NJE.
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Nothing confirmed but you would imagine the hierarchy has to share the blame. There is a feeling from the US that the management was very poor so it is unlikely they will get off scot free.
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....with 80 plus being dismissed today. All office based...."
Goodness gracious me!!! EIGHTY??!!
How many office staff are needed? No wonder they are loosing money!! If we went back to the days of no computers, I wonder how many office staff would have been needed for an operation such as this? 800+?
Goodness gracious me!!! EIGHTY??!!
How many office staff are needed? No wonder they are loosing money!! If we went back to the days of no computers, I wonder how many office staff would have been needed for an operation such as this? 800+?
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Dan....clearly you have no idea of what running the NTA operation entails, this will make life very difficult for a lot of people. Might I also suggest that you stick to posting on subjects you know something about...
I was going to finish with a smilie but pprune doesn't seem to have the special one I wanted to use for DB
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If Mr. Brown hasent made up his name I think he might know a thing or 2 about running flight departments.
I also completly agree with Mr. Brown, if Netjets got rid of all the unnesseccary "services" they provide their crews and instead impowered crews to decide for themselves they could get rid of a further 80 office staff. When a company has 600+ office staff for 160 airplanes there is something wrong. (these numbers are different now off course) A typical charter company will run their operation with about 1 office staff per airplane.
I also completly agree with Mr. Brown, if Netjets got rid of all the unnesseccary "services" they provide their crews and instead impowered crews to decide for themselves they could get rid of a further 80 office staff. When a company has 600+ office staff for 160 airplanes there is something wrong. (these numbers are different now off course) A typical charter company will run their operation with about 1 office staff per airplane.
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...well he might know something about small flight departments....but that is far from the point.
NetJets is a large airline which has a route structure which changes every few hours, it's got a technical department, safety department, flight data monitoring, a standards department and massive amounts of training to organize - all of which I would agree your average charter operator does not bother with. However, I would humbly suggest that say something like FDM for instance is an expensive but worthwhile undertaking in terms of making us safer as are all the other things in my view.
I have not even mentioning the support departments like finance, HR and IT which although never popular only a fool would deny they play a vital role - how many millions of VAT are finance claiming back each year to help the bottom line?
NetJets is a large airline which has a route structure which changes every few hours, it's got a technical department, safety department, flight data monitoring, a standards department and massive amounts of training to organize - all of which I would agree your average charter operator does not bother with. However, I would humbly suggest that say something like FDM for instance is an expensive but worthwhile undertaking in terms of making us safer as are all the other things in my view.
I have not even mentioning the support departments like finance, HR and IT which although never popular only a fool would deny they play a vital role - how many millions of VAT are finance claiming back each year to help the bottom line?
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Even you would be aware, if you get rid of 80 office staff and the operation still functions, these people must have been dead wood, surplus to requirements, carried, or whatever.
Oh BTW please dont refer to me as "he", as I find it most condescending. I do have a handle and it is Dan, or Mr. Brown. Please use it, should you wish to refer to me in future.
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You dont seem to be very impressed with his name sake's writings. Do you think his books should be banned?
Even you would be aware, if you get rid of 80 office staff and the operation still functions, these people must have been dead wood, surplus to requirements, carried, or whatever.
Oh BTW please dont refer to me as "he", as I find it most condescending. I do have a handle and it is Dan, or Mr. Brown. Please use it, should you wish to refer to me in future.
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You dont seem to be very impressed with his name sake's writings. Do you think his books should be banned?
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Of course not banned, everyone has the right to say what they want.
If they were banned I wouldnt be able to say they were crap.
By the way, I never called for anyone to be banned or not have an opinion, I only ever gave my opinion on matters.
If they were banned I wouldnt be able to say they were crap.
By the way, I never called for anyone to be banned or not have an opinion, I only ever gave my opinion on matters.
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I was responding to another party speaking about a third person..you in this case. Using the word "he" is hardly rude or condescending. If the point you're making is about my assumption of your gender then I think that is forgiveable given your use of a male screen name. Now onto your point that the people who lost their jobs were obviously not needed as the operation manages to stumble on. Well firstly how can you say that after a couple of days? Secondly you obviously don't have any real insight into the operation....for instance less guys or girls in scheduling, because of cuts, will inevitably mean scheduling mistakes that lead to sell-off's which can often cost more than the annual pay of a scheduler... Now I'm not saying that the Lisbon Office, in common with many big companies, is a model of efficiency and good communications but I do not believe that it was over staffed to the extent that the management decided it was. Finally I regret causing offence by using the word "he" and I promise not to do it any more...provided you don't refer to my now unemployed friends and colleagues as "dead wood". Taxi2parking
I was responding to another party speaking about a third person..you in this case. Using the word "he" is hardly rude or condescending. If the point you're making is about my assumption of your gender then I think that is forgiveable given your use of a male screen name. Now onto your point that the people who lost their jobs were obviously not needed as the operation manages to stumble on. Well firstly how can you say that after a couple of days? Secondly you obviously don't have any real insight into the operation....for instance less guys or girls in scheduling, because of cuts, will inevitably mean scheduling mistakes that lead to sell-off's which can often cost more than the annual pay of a scheduler... Now I'm not saying that the Lisbon Office, in common with many big companies, is a model of efficiency and good communications but I do not believe that it was over staffed to the extent that the management decided it was. Finally I regret causing offence by using the word "he" and I promise not to do it any more...provided you don't refer to my now unemployed friends and colleagues as "dead wood". Taxi2parking
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Bill
I dont have that info about Bill from official channels but I'm not really surprised, since I've got the feeling that the US is taking more leading roles in the European operation.
Anyway, I hope it's all for the good...
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Anyway, I hope it's all for the good...
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