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Cyberdragon: My advice is that his successor should start by having a good look at what is going on at Biggin Hill....
No AOC, no sales, no revenue, no website, no viable contracts; plenty of staff, plenty of overheads, and a bl**dy big empty hangar, with unfinished offices. Oh...and by his own PR statements they spent $17m on it, so plenty of debt.
No AOC, no sales, no revenue, no website, no viable contracts; plenty of staff, plenty of overheads, and a bl**dy big empty hangar, with unfinished offices. Oh...and by his own PR statements they spent $17m on it, so plenty of debt.
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Why are so many of the posts so negative? I think its great to see a big shiney new hangar appear, and, hopefuly, full of big shiney aircraft one day. Do folks out there derive some kind of pleasure from the demise of companies such as these?
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Why are so many of the posts so negative? I think its great to see a big shiney new hangar appear, and, hopefuly, full of big shiney aircraft one day. Do folks out there derive some kind of pleasure from the demise of companies such as these?
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Well thats true, but, the work progresses on the hangar, planning permission has been granted for the hotel. In the current financial climate if things are a bit slow what the hell as long as they get there.
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Well , for Curtis it seems hangar may be the more appropriate spelling ! Guess his loyal , but not greedy , followers must be quaking in their boots too without his protection now...oh how the mighty fall 
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I did, ok, because if you look at all the posts that seems to be the underlying insinuation.
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Hope my spelling is ok for you.
Guess you never have a typo in haste. Anyway, you say were are in aviation, I might be in the garment industry.
Best of luck to Rizon, just what is needed right now, a bit of confidence in the market. And presumably, a few jobs for folks.
I did, ok, because if you look at all the posts that seems to be the underlying insinuation.
Daifly
Hope my spelling is ok for you.
Guess you never have a typo in haste. Anyway, you say were are in aviation, I might be in the garment industry.Best of luck to Rizon, just what is needed right now, a bit of confidence in the market. And presumably, a few jobs for folks.
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Nu name: Rizon will survive and get stronger simply because those "loyal, but not greedy, followers" that remain will switch to a corporate agenda focused on their survival. The previous protagonist has spent a lifetime running to his personal agenda, regardless of what it did to his loyal followers. Being abandoned by him twice in two years will not go unnoticed. Good luck to them today - they deserve a better boss
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NuName - I said "we are", not "were", which in any case would actually be "we're" - with the apostrophe. And for clarity "thats" also has an apostrophe, making it "that's". 
I think we do have confidence in the industry, but perhaps not so much confidence in everyone who works in it.
"Abandoned"? Well, once bitten, twice shy. Let's hope they learn from it then as they obviously didn't the first time.
(I don't know why I'm being so antagonistic today. Sorry).
I think we do have confidence in the industry, but perhaps not so much confidence in everyone who works in it.
"Abandoned"? Well, once bitten, twice shy. Let's hope they learn from it then as they obviously didn't the first time.
(I don't know why I'm being so antagonistic today. Sorry).
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PT-WIND Are you sure they are loyal to their leader or are they just loyal to their wallets?!
JUST DRILL is informed. Laurel and Hardy, so sorry, the Director of Maintenance and the Director of Quality have also left. Like their beloved leader, they also have recruited good people whom are now high and dry in an organization that is suddenly having a reality check. The story goes, and this may not be correct, that this double act are heading for the Maldives. Can anyone confirm please?
What does BHAL make of all this? Still pushing on with the hotel?
JUST DRILL is informed. Laurel and Hardy, so sorry, the Director of Maintenance and the Director of Quality have also left. Like their beloved leader, they also have recruited good people whom are now high and dry in an organization that is suddenly having a reality check. The story goes, and this may not be correct, that this double act are heading for the Maldives. Can anyone confirm please?
What does BHAL make of all this? Still pushing on with the hotel?
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No one can deny the investment in Biggin Hill. If? you all are real players in the future of GA in the UK you should be supportive. Even if I spelt it wrong.
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The bosses of RBS thought they were 'investing' when they acquired ABN-Amro; they just happened to take the world to the brink of economic collapse. No one can deny Rizon have invested in EGKB; but investment must be productive, creating real sustainable long term jobs and prosperity, not a quick spark that extinguishes others in the process. Where are the jobs? Where is the new business that will create more jobs?
All WC did was move a few people around, create a false market, pay short term silly money, and leave lives and careers the worse off. Bit like Jet Republic. If we are ever to climb out of this recession, we need sensible sales-concentrated efforts to increase trade and hence create growth. You can count the sum total of new clients of JR and RJ on the fingers of one hand (and still have free ones to pick your nose)... and those clients only switched from other businesses.
Business needs to get off this marketing merry-go-round, stop the hype and get back to justifying bizav to a wider community. That, Nu Name, is when we should endorse 'investment' in our industry, not by building an over-rpiced empty shell of a hangar that, as of today, has no customers knocking on the front door.
All WC did was move a few people around, create a false market, pay short term silly money, and leave lives and careers the worse off. Bit like Jet Republic. If we are ever to climb out of this recession, we need sensible sales-concentrated efforts to increase trade and hence create growth. You can count the sum total of new clients of JR and RJ on the fingers of one hand (and still have free ones to pick your nose)... and those clients only switched from other businesses.
Business needs to get off this marketing merry-go-round, stop the hype and get back to justifying bizav to a wider community. That, Nu Name, is when we should endorse 'investment' in our industry, not by building an over-rpiced empty shell of a hangar that, as of today, has no customers knocking on the front door.
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Is Rizon's new hangar overpriced? Just an empty shell? How could one speculate on their potential business unless one was privy to their business plan. It is clear that they have invested a great deal of money in the project, so one would imagine they gave it a great deal of thought before doing so. I for one have shown interest in placing an aircraft there, and may well do so. The facility will provide for engineering, hangarage and a high level VIP lounge, just what I and many others need, not to mention the sorely needed hotel. The jobs will not arrive before the facilities will they?
That, pt-wind, is when we should recognise the fact that investment is a calculated risk that has to go before the reward of successful business. That hangar will be a great asset at Biggin where hangarage of medium to large business jets is at a premium. Seems to me that some folks have an agenda behind their negativity.
That, pt-wind, is when we should recognise the fact that investment is a calculated risk that has to go before the reward of successful business. That hangar will be a great asset at Biggin where hangarage of medium to large business jets is at a premium. Seems to me that some folks have an agenda behind their negativity.