Cancelling IFR
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Cancelling IFR
Do you do that sometimes (unless it's necessary of course for a VFR airfield) or do you reckon that's too risky? I used to fly with a commander who cancelled IFR now and then approaching our home base, which was a not-too-busy airport in Switzerland. Here now, at my new homebase in Germany, a even smaller airfield than before, the pilots cancel IFR sometimes far out. P.S: aircraft is a citation.
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Cancelling IFR?
In the clouds? not so good.
Clear blue skies? why not?
(sorry, couldn't help myself)
We regulary fly VFR out of NYC VFR in Citations or Beechjets for the short repo back home. But that of course is in the US not EU.
In the clouds? not so good.
Clear blue skies? why not?
(sorry, couldn't help myself)
We regulary fly VFR out of NYC VFR in Citations or Beechjets for the short repo back home. But that of course is in the US not EU.
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I assume it depends on how fast you go / how busy the area is?
Wasn't there a thread sometime back with people being uncomfortable ferrying across London VFR due to the amount of traffic you could bump into?
Wasn't there a thread sometime back with people being uncomfortable ferrying across London VFR due to the amount of traffic you could bump into?
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Sure, if wx conditions are appropriate and operational considerations warrant such action. In the Great White North cancelling IFR does not close your flight plan or cancel the alerting service.
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Hi,
since there are many GA airfields without published IAPs, you have to start or finish your flight with a portion under VFR. The point until which you file your flightplan (or from where you wish to pick-up your IFR clearance) has to be chosen carefully with terrain clearance in mind. This is common practice in Germany - unfortunately. It's been a while though since the last time I had to do this...
ATC will vector you to minimum vectoring altitude and ask whether you have the airport in sight. Sometimes a hairy thing to do and many accidents happened during this phase (getting out is much easier). Make sure you choose the sensible thing and stay away from scud running below an overcast over unfamiliar terrain.
Another option: try to find out whether there are airports with published approaches nearby and follow themdown until you break out of the clouds. Current VFR charts is a must!
Good luck and stay alive!
since there are many GA airfields without published IAPs, you have to start or finish your flight with a portion under VFR. The point until which you file your flightplan (or from where you wish to pick-up your IFR clearance) has to be chosen carefully with terrain clearance in mind. This is common practice in Germany - unfortunately. It's been a while though since the last time I had to do this...
ATC will vector you to minimum vectoring altitude and ask whether you have the airport in sight. Sometimes a hairy thing to do and many accidents happened during this phase (getting out is much easier). Make sure you choose the sensible thing and stay away from scud running below an overcast over unfamiliar terrain.
Another option: try to find out whether there are airports with published approaches nearby and follow themdown until you break out of the clouds. Current VFR charts is a must!
Good luck and stay alive!
