Dog to NZ
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Hi, I hope I am in the right place.
I have to get a much prized 30 kg boxer dog from UK to NZ in the cabin, not baggage.
Any sensible ideas without breaking the bank (what's left of it)?
I have to get a much prized 30 kg boxer dog from UK to NZ in the cabin, not baggage.
Any sensible ideas without breaking the bank (what's left of it)?
Prized enough to spend six figures on it's own jet?
Or would it be ok travelling as special cargo on a freighter aircraft with a handler accompanying it, like they do with racehorses?
Them's the decisions the owner might need to consider.
Or would it be ok travelling as special cargo on a freighter aircraft with a handler accompanying it, like they do with racehorses?
Them's the decisions the owner might need to consider.
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In the cabin? Are you sure? If there's one thing nobody wants it's an unrestrained, scared, snapping, snarling, 30kg dog landing on the throttle quadrant after an aborted take-off.
I would say the best way is via the race horse special cargo route.
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Squeegee, not even Air France would let you take your hound in the cabin! However quite a few airlines (maybe Air NZ...check with them) will crate the mutt up in a proper cargo-kennel and deliver him/her to NZ at the same time you arrive. Have you checked quarantine regs. there?
They despatch your canine buddy, lightly tranquillised, and check that it is fed and watered en route.
They despatch your canine buddy, lightly tranquillised, and check that it is fed and watered en route.
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More worryingly if its a boxer, its convinced in its head that its the same size as a schitszu and will spend most of the cruise in your lap (or asleep)
Mines doing the latter at the moment and snoring very loudly......
Mines doing the latter at the moment and snoring very loudly......
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Dogs to go...
Took my two malamutes from the UK to Wichita. Hired a very good company in the UK can't remember which one, but one of these should work: pet transport by air from UK - Google Search
Dogs left the UK from Manchester - company picked them up at the house and drove them the eighty miles to MAN, flew to Chicago O'Hare and then came by road from Chicago - nothing big enough flies into KICT to get the two chuffin huge crates they were shipped in into the hold.
All told they were in transit for around twenty-four hours - arrived safe and sound, well fed and watered and no worse for wear, although they do now have a taste for American Airlines peanuts!
Not sure what it cost - the company picked up the tab, but if I remember rightly it was about 2000 pounds - money well spent.
Dogs left the UK from Manchester - company picked them up at the house and drove them the eighty miles to MAN, flew to Chicago O'Hare and then came by road from Chicago - nothing big enough flies into KICT to get the two chuffin huge crates they were shipped in into the hold.
All told they were in transit for around twenty-four hours - arrived safe and sound, well fed and watered and no worse for wear, although they do now have a taste for American Airlines peanuts!
Not sure what it cost - the company picked up the tab, but if I remember rightly it was about 2000 pounds - money well spent.
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Info for animal lovers
I am a retired pilot, and I have a Siberian Husky dog.
I would never put a dog for travel prisoner in a kennel in the cargo compartment of a passenger aircraft alongside baggage, in a dark, noisy and cold area. I you love animals, as I do, do not do that to a dog. That dog is at risk, if not to freeze in flight, to cook in the sun on the ramp, while awaiting to be loaded on the airplane.
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The best way for a dog to travel, is on board of a large cargo aircraft, where it is customary to locate animals (such as dogs) inside a kennel, generally at a location close to the cockpit. Try FedEx, or UPS... best case scenario.
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I flew cargo airplanes, at times, and happened to have dogs, cats or other animals occasionally on board. I never failed to keep an eye on them, and if the dog was congenial or attracting our sympathy, we would be sure he was comfortable, had water to drink, or would snack one of our crew sandwiches. I recall one of my flight engineers walking a cocker spaniel around the airplane while performing a transit external check. The dog probably contributed to the inspection by watering the brakes and tyres...
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So - do whatever you want. I do not put my dog in baggage compartments under any circumstances. If I cannot smuggle him into the cockpit with the approval of the captain (with my former airline), I rather drive two days in my little car, with an overnight motel stop, rather than having him to suffer a 90 minutes flight in a dark A-320 or B-737 baggage compartment.
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I would never put a dog for travel prisoner in a kennel in the cargo compartment of a passenger aircraft alongside baggage, in a dark, noisy and cold area. I you love animals, as I do, do not do that to a dog. That dog is at risk, if not to freeze in flight, to cook in the sun on the ramp, while awaiting to be loaded on the airplane.
xxx
The best way for a dog to travel, is on board of a large cargo aircraft, where it is customary to locate animals (such as dogs) inside a kennel, generally at a location close to the cockpit. Try FedEx, or UPS... best case scenario.
xxx
I flew cargo airplanes, at times, and happened to have dogs, cats or other animals occasionally on board. I never failed to keep an eye on them, and if the dog was congenial or attracting our sympathy, we would be sure he was comfortable, had water to drink, or would snack one of our crew sandwiches. I recall one of my flight engineers walking a cocker spaniel around the airplane while performing a transit external check. The dog probably contributed to the inspection by watering the brakes and tyres...
xxxx
So - do whatever you want. I do not put my dog in baggage compartments under any circumstances. If I cannot smuggle him into the cockpit with the approval of the captain (with my former airline), I rather drive two days in my little car, with an overnight motel stop, rather than having him to suffer a 90 minutes flight in a dark A-320 or B-737 baggage compartment.
xxx
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...thanks for the input. I couldn't consider sticking her in airline baggage, hence the post here in Bizjet section. I will look into animal freight airlines, as suggested. Can I accompany her on one of these flights for a fee?
And yes, I am even considering chartering to get her there - it's just SUCH a long trip that I need to know there is not something acceptable out there first, before I spend THAT amount.
And yes, I am even considering chartering to get her there - it's just SUCH a long trip that I need to know there is not something acceptable out there first, before I spend THAT amount.
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Not funny! 
But I had to laugh, dunno why...
Had my Goldie with me a few times (in the Cabin of 'my' Jet), the worst thing for him was the drive to and from airport, he hated that.
But I had to laugh, dunno why...
Had my Goldie with me a few times (in the Cabin of 'my' Jet), the worst thing for him was the drive to and from airport, he hated that.
Doubt you'll be able to accompany the dog on a freighter. But you never know if you offer enough cash.
Definitely speak to specialised animal forwarders, and also try the Fed-Exs etc.
Definitely speak to specialised animal forwarders, and also try the Fed-Exs etc.
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I live in NZ, shipped a cat to the US, people picked the animal up from home, crated him in a kennel type container, arrived the same day we did, but then got him the next day. NZ has real quarantine issues, so I believe that you would not have access to your dog for a few weeks, and you would have to produce documents of all required shots and checkups. It cost me $1,000 dollars NZ to ship that cat, was part of the family, died of a heart attack one year later, asshole. Most airlines have a special spot for live animals, but I think the biggest headache will be once you get the animal to the airport in NZ.
Good Luck
Good Luck
