Netjets Europe Falcon 7X Progress
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Falcon 7X
The Aircraft needs time to settle down as with any new product, great looking machine and very well built and put together. I think Gulfstream G450 may hurt on this new product but it will never beat a G550 or Classic GV in terms of range etc.
The larger cabin is fantastic and I recently saw a 7X at EGLF with Bunk beds for the kids private operation.
I wonder how the pilots are getting used to the nose wheel steering (Minus Tiller)
As for the Paint Scheme are they painting the whole fleet? they must have a deal from UPS at Doncaster Airport.
The larger cabin is fantastic and I recently saw a 7X at EGLF with Bunk beds for the kids private operation.
I wonder how the pilots are getting used to the nose wheel steering (Minus Tiller)
As for the Paint Scheme are they painting the whole fleet? they must have a deal from UPS at Doncaster Airport.
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paint scheme NJE
perfect love the ninja turtles, but maybe the monkeys were retired early from twycross zoo and employed as painters at Doncaster Airport where all future paint jobs will be done.
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They actually hired/paid someone to design this liverey????
" How to degrade a sexy looking airplane in an old granny of the skies" for dummies
Boy oh boy....some companies DO still have lots of money to go to waste!
" How to degrade a sexy looking airplane in an old granny of the skies" for dummies
Boy oh boy....some companies DO still have lots of money to go to waste!
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I dont really understand the negativity towards the paint scheme.
Who cares, we are just the drivers, the planes dont belong to us...
Someone else has taken the decision to have the planes painted like this, thats their job description, so let them worry about it looking bad and being laughed at, they will have to defend their choices.
Who cares, we are just the drivers, the planes dont belong to us...
Someone else has taken the decision to have the planes painted like this, thats their job description, so let them worry about it looking bad and being laughed at, they will have to defend their choices.
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Well put South Coast, your correct if they want to waste money and new livery let them go ahead.
Your right we do not own them and NJE has sold them to the customers so thats that.
What we all have to remember in this industry as long as we are burning Jet Fuel being paid they can paint it what ever they like.
With the current market I am grateful for a position at the moment.
Your right we do not own them and NJE has sold them to the customers so thats that.
What we all have to remember in this industry as long as we are burning Jet Fuel being paid they can paint it what ever they like.
With the current market I am grateful for a position at the moment.
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South Coast. Time for your medicine 
Calm down old fruit.
Most people are saying it's a lousy paintscheme but I don't think anyone is blaming the crew. There's a new rumour though (just being started by me, right now) that crew on home standby are being called in to paint the rest of the fleet
Calm down old fruit.Most people are saying it's a lousy paintscheme but I don't think anyone is blaming the crew. There's a new rumour though (just being started by me, right now) that crew on home standby are being called in to paint the rest of the fleet
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Right now I'd probably jump at the chance to do something productive.
Unless of course you know of anybody on the lookout for crews with the right experience and background................
Right now I'd probably jump at the chance to do something productive.
Unless of course you know of anybody on the lookout for crews with the right experience and background................
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If that is what you think, then you are seriously and clinically deluded. They will drop you like a hot potato should they feel the need to "let people go" as companies don't get where they are today by feeling sorry for people.
No ones job is safe and that includes yours. This year things will get worse, so please don't kid yourself and try and lead others into a false sense of security.
Might pay to stay away from the military style indoctrination for a while, then you maybe able to think with a "clear head".
No ones job is safe and that includes yours. This year things will get worse, so please don't kid yourself and try and lead others into a false sense of security.
Might pay to stay away from the military style indoctrination for a while, then you maybe able to think with a "clear head".
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550 vs. 7X
If we keep letting the bean-counters making decisions regarding airplanes the 7x may eeke out the 550. I used to fly all the tri-jet Falcon's , and I may have been heard praising the three engines as well as the flying qualities of Dassault products. After having made the transition to the G450 and 550 I am a 100% convert. The three hair-driers on the back of the Falcons can't compete with two honking BMW-Rolls Royce engines on the 550.
The Gulfstream is way ahead when it comes to long haul flying, it looks better on the ramp and I get a woody every time I fire those bad boys up. (In the interest of full disclosure I also own a BMW, get a stiffie when that baby purrs to life as well).
The Falcons are great airplanes, but the Gulfstreams are more great. (Poor grammar on purpose for you hall monitors)
The Gulfstream is way ahead when it comes to long haul flying, it looks better on the ramp and I get a woody every time I fire those bad boys up. (In the interest of full disclosure I also own a BMW, get a stiffie when that baby purrs to life as well).
The Falcons are great airplanes, but the Gulfstreams are more great. (Poor grammar on purpose for you hall monitors)
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I do not agree with you, what you said is true regarding the 900 but the 7x its a different game , it is powerfull, fly fantasticly and don t use fuel and yes it perform better than a GV but not a 550 or global express XLS on range but he can do airport than none of those will ever do even in privat ops.
As an exemple NJE 7x flew Barbados London in 7 h mach .87 using 3700 air nm and 2300 lbs of fuel, the G550 flew longer London Barbados using 4300 air nm because of 120 minutes circle of the 2 engines. Pax actually noticed that it was lots shorter on 7x and its also lots cheaper, the cabin is wider and the galley in the front, pax don t usually like galley at the back apparently so without going into who is better etc... the 7x is a bit smaller than a GV but perform better in all areas except on range against the 550 and global XLS they can do 500 nm more ! that s set.
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assault is waiting after the paper from CAA to do London city ..wonder when we gone see un G there
As an exemple NJE 7x flew Barbados London in 7 h mach .87 using 3700 air nm and 2300 lbs of fuel, the G550 flew longer London Barbados using 4300 air nm because of 120 minutes circle of the 2 engines. Pax actually noticed that it was lots shorter on 7x and its also lots cheaper, the cabin is wider and the galley in the front, pax don t usually like galley at the back apparently so without going into who is better etc... the 7x is a bit smaller than a GV but perform better in all areas except on range against the 550 and global XLS they can do 500 nm more ! that s set.
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assault is waiting after the paper from CAA to do London city ..wonder when we gone see un G there
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Yes that was **** use of the english language DAdriver, i think you'll find the phrase is "more betterer", now go and stand in the corner.
Quite right though, 550 is a fantastic machine and certainly wouldn't swap my seat for a 7x. I'm told we have applied for 180 minutes so that may alter the scenario Falconbis just described.
Quite right though, 550 is a fantastic machine and certainly wouldn't swap my seat for a 7x. I'm told we have applied for 180 minutes so that may alter the scenario Falconbis just described.
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How often you really need G550's max range? Can any G550 driver put a rough estimate on % of "ultra" long haul flying he is doing (say longer than 12 hours)? Barbados-London is something what you can do even with CL604...
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The CEO of Netjets Europe is saying they have to save money where they can in the Crewmagazine! (the crewmagazine itself is a waste of money)
Why are they repanting the aircraft to this ugly coloursheme? They probably paid big bugs to a high roller designer to come up with just 1 stripe over the aircraft !! My grandmother could have designed this!
Why are they repanting the aircraft to this ugly coloursheme? They probably paid big bugs to a high roller designer to come up with just 1 stripe over the aircraft !! My grandmother could have designed this!