Global Express Pole to Pole Flight
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Global Express Pole to Pole Flight
Has anyone got the details of the flight just completed by a Global Express from pole to pole?
Only caught the end of a news item on the telly and hoping to find out a bit more about it.
Cheers
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Only caught the end of a news item on the telly and hoping to find out a bit more about it.
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Cheers for the replies.
Great to see people still taking on challenges like this.
Quite impressed by the turn around times as well, 30 mins wheels on the ground to fuel etc is pretty good going.
Congrats to the guys on board!
Great to see people still taking on challenges like this.
Quite impressed by the turn around times as well, 30 mins wheels on the ground to fuel etc is pretty good going.
Congrats to the guys on board!
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Sorry, someone help me here please: what is the point of this one?
In my simple mind, the aircraft did most of the work, the crew had a chance to either fly a nice plane, or rest down the back of a nice plane; there was probably plenty of quality food on board, so what's so clever?
A lot of fuel wasted for a nice view of McMurdo et al...for the privileged few.
I thought world records were about human endeavour against all odds, about hardship, suffering and pain to be the first, best, fastest etc.
Surely we could beat the Global if we arranged for an SR71 to do it direct non-stop, with AAT support; it's just a matter of signing off the money?
In my simple mind, the aircraft did most of the work, the crew had a chance to either fly a nice plane, or rest down the back of a nice plane; there was probably plenty of quality food on board, so what's so clever?
A lot of fuel wasted for a nice view of McMurdo et al...for the privileged few.
I thought world records were about human endeavour against all odds, about hardship, suffering and pain to be the first, best, fastest etc.
Surely we could beat the Global if we arranged for an SR71 to do it direct non-stop, with AAT support; it's just a matter of signing off the money?
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What a shame ............
What a shame there is always some small-minded twerp who wants to criticise, instead of congratulate, those who like to challenge existing records and constantly set new ones. I have personal knowledge of the people involved in this latest flight and know them to be professionals to their fingertips. This flight was to demonstrate their love of aviation, rather than to glorify their own actions.
Well done, Team!
GW
Well done, Team!
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Sorry, someone help me here please: what is the point of this one?
In my simple mind, the aircraft did most of the work, the crew had a chance to either fly a nice plane, or rest down the back of a nice plane; there was probably plenty of quality food on board, so what's so clever?
A lot of fuel wasted for a nice view of McMurdo et al...for the privileged few.
I thought world records were about human endeavour against all odds, about hardship, suffering and pain to be the first, best, fastest etc
In my simple mind, the aircraft did most of the work, the crew had a chance to either fly a nice plane, or rest down the back of a nice plane; there was probably plenty of quality food on board, so what's so clever?
A lot of fuel wasted for a nice view of McMurdo et al...for the privileged few.
I thought world records were about human endeavour against all odds, about hardship, suffering and pain to be the first, best, fastest etc
Records if I'm not mistaken are for the most part made to be broken, using your logic, the fellows who went around the world in a balloon just sat on their arse..while the hot air and jet-streams did all the hard work
What a misery
Congrats to all who participated
It's possibly not the most PC of records to try and break at this moment in time...
Lots of fuel = expense and emissions.
And involving the 2 melting polar ice caps in the equation is likely to get some people's backs up. However, they do say that there is no such thing as bad PR.
I wonder if they have carbon offsetted the fuel used?
But records are certainly there to be broken - and its a great achievement.
I'm very impressed with some of those turnaround times. There must have been a great deal of planning to ensure those fuel trucks were in place as the aircraft chocked up.
Lots of fuel = expense and emissions.
And involving the 2 melting polar ice caps in the equation is likely to get some people's backs up. However, they do say that there is no such thing as bad PR.
I wonder if they have carbon offsetted the fuel used?
But records are certainly there to be broken - and its a great achievement.
I'm very impressed with some of those turnaround times. There must have been a great deal of planning to ensure those fuel trucks were in place as the aircraft chocked up.
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Ahem mm
The south pole (Antarctic Ice sheet) isn't melting...its getting bigger, but I digress
And involving the 2 melting polar ice caps in the equation is likely to get some people's backs up.
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Hmmm, V12 is not so wrong, methinks. It certainly is nice to break a record and all that, but whats the point? I mean, with, GPS/INS,A/P with A/T, satellite forecasts and whatnot...
Good PR for TAG, certainly a nice experience for the ones involved, a good team effort, but nothing of importance. (IŽd think that TAG had just the PR thing in mind, which is their good right) But thats just my opinion. And no, not jealous.
Good PR for TAG, certainly a nice experience for the ones involved, a good team effort, but nothing of importance. (IŽd think that TAG had just the PR thing in mind, which is their good right) But thats just my opinion. And no, not jealous.
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I see the point that V12 is making. It is not the most exciting record to set. I would say that it stood for so long because no one cared to beat it. I am sure if that dude that owns Virgin, Barnstorm, Breaston....is it? If he wanted to break it he could do it next week.
But come on V12 all the same congrats is due, it would be cool to be part of a record making flight like that.
I have a record you might like V12, Quickest time to fly Champagne to the Congo from Europe? I believe that the crazy leader at the time chartered Concorde to fly the leg opener to some place in the jungle. Anyone know more about that one?
But come on V12 all the same congrats is due, it would be cool to be part of a record making flight like that.
I have a record you might like V12, Quickest time to fly Champagne to the Congo from Europe? I believe that the crazy leader at the time chartered Concorde to fly the leg opener to some place in the jungle. Anyone know more about that one?
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I wonder if that was the same flight that Mobutu had organised and apparently constructed a purpose made runway for concorde . A place called Gbadolite right on the Central Africa Republic/DRC border. When I was last there in 2005 it had not been maintained for the last 25 years or more - minus the countless broken old Migs. no navaids oh yes and a couple of hundred of soliders and civilians waiting for their flight - they were waiting three days!
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Hope i'm not a misery; and i'm not trying to detract from what must have been a great weekend for a lot of volunteers. I was just trying to add context for debate, and i was thinking that when you talk to pioneers like Ranulph Fienes, or Piccard, their ventures are the dreams of schoolboys, and perhaps plummeting the depths of the Marianna Trench are the records that really get the blood going?
Piccard was at Ebace 2007 and listening to him was utterly enthralling. Not sure whether listening to Capt Ojjeh looking down on McMurdo would be quite as entertaining, but maybe if he writes a book i'll buy it for the photos at least?
In the end, just an opinion. Well done to the team.
Piccard was at Ebace 2007 and listening to him was utterly enthralling. Not sure whether listening to Capt Ojjeh looking down on McMurdo would be quite as entertaining, but maybe if he writes a book i'll buy it for the photos at least?
In the end, just an opinion. Well done to the team.
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your heart is beating always, when you go for breaking a record. ( I was a lucky crew member on board a falcon for the Gander-Paris one). the owner wanted the record , we waited nearly two years in order to offer him this record. When you set off for it, with all the money, time involved, you are doing it , when there is reasonable chances to bring it back.
So yes, it easy to say WTF, so Easy in a GLEX etc... but 55 hours in the cabin....up down, uncertainty of the turn around, wind predictions, technical faults anything can happen...
Why do break records ? Because you can.
So yes, it easy to say WTF, so Easy in a GLEX etc... but 55 hours in the cabin....up down, uncertainty of the turn around, wind predictions, technical faults anything can happen...
Why do break records ? Because you can.
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Yep well done to everyone, the owner of the said Global was also one of the many pilots involved and so was on hand to see it all.
I believe it was actually delayed by 1-2 weeks due to a problem at the last minute with the AOC the aircraft was being operated on...but they got there in the end.
I believe it was actually delayed by 1-2 weeks due to a problem at the last minute with the AOC the aircraft was being operated on...but they got there in the end.
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Dynamite Dean. Looks like no one here is interested in our conversation, I am going to post a question in the Aviation History forum. In the process I will break the record for moving from the Biz jet forum to the Aviation History forum by a person with an Apple sitting on a neutral coloured couch.
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Poor small minded me, I fail to see anything except a self indulgent and useless ego trip in this. It is after all a state of the art aeroplane designed for such long trips. Where is the "WOW" factor?
