Markoss rostering
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: UK
Posts: 15
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I'm not sure hostile would be the correct phrase, I would probably call it looking a gift horse in the mouth!
I see from your comment that the CP & CTP have not resigned their positions in the company, I do hope that the rumour circulating regarding a new CP joining next month isn't true as I hear that he will be taking up the CP & CTP roles, think the office would be a little cosy if there were two CP's in situ', hope he didn't give up a good job for this position!!
On a completely different topic, has anyone heard the rumour that a winding up order has been served on markoss today, it seems a bit strange as i thought they were about to get a second aircraft... is this just another rumour!!
I see from your comment that the CP & CTP have not resigned their positions in the company, I do hope that the rumour circulating regarding a new CP joining next month isn't true as I hear that he will be taking up the CP & CTP roles, think the office would be a little cosy if there were two CP's in situ', hope he didn't give up a good job for this position!!
On a completely different topic, has anyone heard the rumour that a winding up order has been served on markoss today, it seems a bit strange as i thought they were about to get a second aircraft... is this just another rumour!!
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: New York
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Markoss in trouble
Sounds like a difficult situation. Of course, while the current economic situation hurts everyone in this business, it seems like this company is the next to bite the dust. I guess the fuel companies, airports and EuroControl will now be looking to get their money. Who owns the aircraft? Will they now re-possess?
Sorry for all the Markoss grass roots employees, but to me has not appeared a credible operator for the last few months.
Sorry for all the Markoss grass roots employees, but to me has not appeared a credible operator for the last few months.
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Feltham Young Offenders HMP
Posts: 16
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Chaps,
Lets not jump to conclusions that they are about to fold, for that may not be the case...........
......but, the rumour that the investor was led away in handcuffs for breaking and entering and a particularly nasty assult the other night (there appears to be plenty of witnesses) AND is a wanted felon should be cleared up to Markoss staff ASAP.
Otherwise good people will start jumping ship.
Lets not jump to conclusions that they are about to fold, for that may not be the case...........
......but, the rumour that the investor was led away in handcuffs for breaking and entering and a particularly nasty assult the other night (there appears to be plenty of witnesses) AND is a wanted felon should be cleared up to Markoss staff ASAP.
Otherwise good people will start jumping ship.
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: New York
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Jumping Ship
Sounds like it is time to do just that if things are as they appear!
My own experience as a pilot with Markoss is based on apparent misleading statements as to who actually owns the company, disappearing directors and key personnel, unpaid bills going back months, issues with fuel and other bills down line, and, now, it would appear, resignations at senior level.
Flying Dolly seems to be 'in the know'.
My own experience as a pilot with Markoss is based on apparent misleading statements as to who actually owns the company, disappearing directors and key personnel, unpaid bills going back months, issues with fuel and other bills down line, and, now, it would appear, resignations at senior level.
Flying Dolly seems to be 'in the know'.
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Surrey
Age: 55
Posts: 4
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Flying dolly is by all accounts a disgruntled former employee that that tried to make the leap from being cabin crew to office duties, but alledgedly caused nothing but trouble when she was there. She and her partner in crime (also long gone from Markoss due to being p**s poor at their job) in this long running hate campaign seem to be on a personal mission to try and take 25 peopls jobs, livelihoods and houses with them. I hear that some of the former employess treated it as more of a flying club rather than a commercial venture, and their lack of any business sense and commercial aviation know how may well be the reason they are no longer with the company. The transition from biz jet to a CRJ operation may have highlighted the comfort zone some of the staff had been working in for far too long, so perhaps decisions were made to get rid of the dead wood and replace them with people who actually knew what they were doing.
If Markoss is left to get on with what it does best, rather than be subject to continuous diatribe from what I gather were useless and spiteful former employees, I have no doubt it will be just fine.
As for the "assault", I hear the police where called to an incident at RAS, not Markoss.
Flying dolly, fyi:
MD - still at the company
CP - still at the company
Ths is my first and last post on pprune. I will leave it to people like flying dolly to fill their empty days and nights with ways to try and ruin peoples lives.
If Markoss is left to get on with what it does best, rather than be subject to continuous diatribe from what I gather were useless and spiteful former employees, I have no doubt it will be just fine.
As for the "assault", I hear the police where called to an incident at RAS, not Markoss.
Flying dolly, fyi:
MD - still at the company
CP - still at the company
Ths is my first and last post on pprune. I will leave it to people like flying dolly to fill their empty days and nights with ways to try and ruin peoples lives.
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: UK
Posts: 15
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Your comments are misleading and untrue to say the least.
You appear to have made a bit of a fool of yourself !!
I hope for everyones sake that the rumours regarding Markoss are untrue, but would suggest that you take a closer look to home to lay any blame as to the current status of Markoss
You say, "this is your first and last post on pprune".....I really think you should keep it that way, before you make an even bigger fool of yourself, leave pprune to the people that know what they are talking about....just a suggestion
You appear to have made a bit of a fool of yourself !!
I hope for everyones sake that the rumours regarding Markoss are untrue, but would suggest that you take a closer look to home to lay any blame as to the current status of Markoss
You say, "this is your first and last post on pprune".....I really think you should keep it that way, before you make an even bigger fool of yourself, leave pprune to the people that know what they are talking about....just a suggestion
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: London
Posts: 9
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Getting nasty!
I saw the High Court people delivering papers yesterday, so looks like things are indeed getting nasty at Markoss. Also know for a fact - from the horse's mouth - that one or two of our senior brethren are in the process of jumping the sinking ship.
Adieu my friends and colleagues and good luck in finding new jobs. I better get my taxi licence back!
Adieu my friends and colleagues and good luck in finding new jobs. I better get my taxi licence back!
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: London
Posts: 9
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Tommojonm
Whoever you are, Tommojohnm, you obviously don't know the history of this company. Just ask yourself who started this business and built it up to actually getting the CRJ. Who did all the work and put together the business plan? Whose money and house was on the line to give you this opportunity? Not the current director for sure.
When I joined, the grapevine told me that things were not as they seemed and that it wouldn't be long before the heavies or legal guys got involved and the company would go under as it was effectively a pack of cards waiting to tumble - no real money, weard goings on with the new board of directors who had - allegedly - just cheated their way into 'owning' someone else's company. I needed the money and wanted the rating, so I stayed, but I for one am off if I don't get paid this week, even if it means driving the taxi. again.
May be Trolly Dolly or, sorry, Flying Dolly, was on the right side of all this. (Who is she anyway? Any ideas? May be that gorgeous blonde who used to always be around at Biggin?!)
When I joined, the grapevine told me that things were not as they seemed and that it wouldn't be long before the heavies or legal guys got involved and the company would go under as it was effectively a pack of cards waiting to tumble - no real money, weard goings on with the new board of directors who had - allegedly - just cheated their way into 'owning' someone else's company. I needed the money and wanted the rating, so I stayed, but I for one am off if I don't get paid this week, even if it means driving the taxi. again.
May be Trolly Dolly or, sorry, Flying Dolly, was on the right side of all this. (Who is she anyway? Any ideas? May be that gorgeous blonde who used to always be around at Biggin?!)
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Feltham Young Offenders HMP
Posts: 16
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Tommo, regardless of where the 'alledged' assult took place do you really think it fills clients and staff alike with confidence that the 'potential' new investor 'alledgedly' smashed his former Chief Pilots head against a wall??
Things need to be dealt with swiftly to bring all this uncertanty to an end
.
I'm disapointed it is your last post, I was rather hoping that we could get some facts and move on.
Things need to be dealt with swiftly to bring all this uncertanty to an end
.
I'm disapointed it is your last post, I was rather hoping that we could get some facts and move on.
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Surrey
Age: 55
Posts: 4
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
They are facts, and personally I dont give a damn if you are disappointed with the nature and content of my message. It was 100% truthful and correct, quite unlike some of the drivel I've been reading. I will now leave the well known former Markoss employees to persue this personal vendetta.
Talking of flyingdolly, I think I will have to leave judgement on her honesty and integrity to all who had the 'pleasure' of working with her.
Talking of flyingdolly, I think I will have to leave judgement on her honesty and integrity to all who had the 'pleasure' of working with her.
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Feltham Young Offenders HMP
Posts: 16
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
You completely misunderstand, im disapointed because it was your last post on this matter and you seem to be the most informed. Many things need to be made clear about this new investor as many people are very nervous.
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: UK
Posts: 15
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Not informed enough as it would seem, as I'm not sure how tommo could have overlooked several issues.
Markoss used to be a great company with good people, but since the ownership changed sadly so did the company and it wasn't for the better.
There is a lesson to anyone considering letting a builder have a bash at running an aviation company, first he will probably demolish the foundations, then have a go at the remaining structure and will probably end up doing a boggit and leggit.
I would like to clear one thing up with you Tommo, I am not and have never been a disgruntled ex employee and my integrity and honesty is 100% solid and intact.
- The MD has resigned his position as a Director of the Company (you can check for yourself on Companies house)
- CP has resigned his post
- CTP has resigned his post
- New CP has been appointed and will be taking over the CTP role as well as the CP role in the near future (fingers crossed)
- Winding up order was served to Markoss on Friday (which can only occur when there is an outstanding debt that has not been paid to a creditor and no other satisfactory solution was reached)
- An assault did take place and a member of the markoss staff and a director of markoss where present, regardless of the location it still took place and sadly someone got hurt.
- Disappearing Directors and key personnel, unpaid bills going back months,and the decline in the Companies reputation has been raised by Tropic Bird who is an employee of the company.
Markoss used to be a great company with good people, but since the ownership changed sadly so did the company and it wasn't for the better.
There is a lesson to anyone considering letting a builder have a bash at running an aviation company, first he will probably demolish the foundations, then have a go at the remaining structure and will probably end up doing a boggit and leggit.
I would like to clear one thing up with you Tommo, I am not and have never been a disgruntled ex employee and my integrity and honesty is 100% solid and intact.
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: another place
Posts: 736
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Sickdolly
Well Dolly if you are so well informed and stand by what you have to say, then publish your name and give Markoss the chance to respond with legal process if they wish. I normally find if someone has so much to say on one subject, they normally have an axe to grind or why else would Dolly and the. others try to help the failure of another employer operating in one of the most expensive industies under hard global economic conditions.
People like you should be removed from the gene pool
D and F
People like you should be removed from the gene pool
D and F
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: London
Posts: 9
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
An Interesting Weekend!
Doesn't look good, does it?
I have just checked the UK Companies House website this morning and it looks like Trolley Dolly is right. I also was at Biggin Friday and saw the Bailiff myself. Whatever her own gripe with the company, or her motives, it looks as though she is telling us something we all need to know and deserve answers to.
We need to raise these issues with the boss Monday morning.
All at Biggin at 10am?
I have been in this position before and learnt the hard way - bounced cheques, unpaid expenses, unpaid salary and unpaid pension contributions - along with a lot of friends in the same position after years of loyal service - that good faith can be readily abused by those employers between a rock and a hard place. The bottom line is whether they have the cash or whether the banks will support them. In today's business climate?
I have just checked the UK Companies House website this morning and it looks like Trolley Dolly is right. I also was at Biggin Friday and saw the Bailiff myself. Whatever her own gripe with the company, or her motives, it looks as though she is telling us something we all need to know and deserve answers to.
We need to raise these issues with the boss Monday morning.
All at Biggin at 10am?
I have been in this position before and learnt the hard way - bounced cheques, unpaid expenses, unpaid salary and unpaid pension contributions - along with a lot of friends in the same position after years of loyal service - that good faith can be readily abused by those employers between a rock and a hard place. The bottom line is whether they have the cash or whether the banks will support them. In today's business climate?
Join Date: May 2000
Location: gatwick uk
Posts: 27
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
markoss
well said deep and fast
it is a very difficult environment and larger companies than markoss
may have problems
it is unfortunate that 'Rumours' and this is a rumour network can have
a severe impact on companies like markoss
give them some respite and i am sure eventually there will be some form
of statement
it is a very difficult environment and larger companies than markoss
may have problems
it is unfortunate that 'Rumours' and this is a rumour network can have
a severe impact on companies like markoss
give them some respite and i am sure eventually there will be some form
of statement
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: New York
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Rumours
That is why we have PPrune, to let us know and otherwise warn of problems before they happen, to exchange 'inside information'.
Everyone is entitled to their view, but no gagging please !!!!
There is no smoke without fire......... Seems like Flying Dolly has some guts.
Everyone is entitled to their view, but no gagging please !!!!
There is no smoke without fire......... Seems like Flying Dolly has some guts.
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: UK
Posts: 15
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Really deep and fast, your loyalty to your fellow employees who have quite happily shared a few home truths with us all on this site has bought a tear to my eye, not that I'm upset you understand, but I haven't laughed this much in ages. especially your comment about the gene pool.... genius you should be on the stage
Maybe you should ask yourself why some employees feel strongly enough to want to make their views regarding the company public, I'm not sure that they would be doing this if everything was a happy ship.
anyway fella keep the sense of humour up.
especially your comment about the gene pool.... genius you should be on the stageMaybe you should ask yourself why some employees feel strongly enough to want to make their views regarding the company public, I'm not sure that they would be doing this if everything was a happy ship.
anyway fella keep the sense of humour up.
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: another place
Posts: 736
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Off your trolley dolly
I have never worked for Markoss but this is a small industry and you meet many who are in the know. It seems a few of the detractors of Markoss have recently joined PPRUNE which is always a sign that that person may not be a sage. As for on stage, thats not my thing. But smelling vindictive behavour I seem to be a natural.
D and F
D and F
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Feltham Young Offenders HMP
Posts: 16
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Can someone please wake up and smell the coffee!
1. We are told a potential investor is being brought on board. He then smashes his former Chief Pilots head against a wall in front of 2 Markoss employees.
2. When the Police get involved its then 'alledged' that he is wanted abroad for a serious crime.
3. A winding up order is served.
If a public forum needs to be used so the good people who work for the company can get the TRUTH, then its a sad day for us all.
1. We are told a potential investor is being brought on board. He then smashes his former Chief Pilots head against a wall in front of 2 Markoss employees.
2. When the Police get involved its then 'alledged' that he is wanted abroad for a serious crime.
3. A winding up order is served.
If a public forum needs to be used so the good people who work for the company can get the TRUTH, then its a sad day for us all.
Last edited by Jonny Jowls; 26th Oct 2008 at 23:46.
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: UK
Posts: 15
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Deep throat
Well you are cleary not talking to the people in the "know" and you are out of your depth, as you have no idea what you are dribbling on about! so it would be far better for you to realise your errors and concentrate on smaller matters, that way you can't embarrass yourself any further.
Last edited by flyingdolly; 27th Oct 2008 at 02:08.