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At Bombardier facility in KBDL
I am looking at one of their 605 being told that the "OE" registration is being removed and switched to "N" registry. If that means anything,,,,,,
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Good luck to Vista Jet
Firstly Mr. Bruggisser will wildly start to buy all loss-making companies as one need to grow to be profitable. Then all services will either be outsourced or become independent profitcenters. In the end you as a Captain will have to sign the bill for e.g. "delivered cabin crew services" which is run under the "product" Department and which is highly profitable because you did not read the bill you signed. The company will end up bankrupt, without any tangible assets left(all aircraft are leased,sold and re-leased) and the profitable departments will be sold at high price so as the Management and Board can walk away with a nice profit..
History repeats itself...beware
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History repeats itself...beware
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Vista is going about it all wrong anyway. VJ needs to start from the bottom and work their way up. Get some experienced dispatchers (who can read NOTAM's) and a good flight planning system. This would make the flights safer and more efficient and save a lot of money.
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Not just one - but a whole "new board" according to TF
VistaJet New Board and Senior Management Team
Dear Sir/Madam,
I am delighted to tell you that we have made three major appointments to VistaJet’s Board and senior management team including those of Philippe Bruggisser as Chief Executive Officer and Scott Plumb as Chief Commercial Officer. John Boo, a veteran investment banker, is also joining us as a non-executive Director.
Philippe Bruggisser has over thirty years of aviation industry experience and was formerly COO of Swissair and latterly President of the airline’s holding company, SAir Group, whilst Scott Plumb has over twenty years of aerospace sales and marketing experience gained at Gulfstream Aerospace, Airbus Industrie and British Aerospace.
With the world’s largest owned commercial charter fleet outside of the Americas, these appointments will help us to both capitalise on our leading position in the industry and to ensure maximum success from the implementation of the next phase of our growth strategy – a phase of growth that we hope will make VistaJet an even more viable transportation solution for you in the future.
We are revolutionising our industry. VistaJet’s priority is to help you find the right solution for your flying profile. The solution for you could be a Program, On-Demand or a combination. VistaJet consistently provides a higher standard of luxury and value, with guaranteed availability.
We would be delighted to meet you personally and tell you more about how VistaJet could be the perfect flight solution partner for you. Please do not hesitate to contact me: I can be reached on [email protected].
Yours sincerely,
Thomas Flohr
____________________________________________________________ ________________________VistaJet Luftfahrtunternehmen GmbH
A VistaJet Group Company∙ Sterneckstraße 35
A-5020 Salzburg, Austria
When he says "We are revolutionising our industry", can someone from inside Vista tell me what exactly does he mean?
Looks to me that he's doing much the same as everyone else, except he owns the planes, which means he can't make money; is that the revolution?
Dear Sir/Madam,
I am delighted to tell you that we have made three major appointments to VistaJet’s Board and senior management team including those of Philippe Bruggisser as Chief Executive Officer and Scott Plumb as Chief Commercial Officer. John Boo, a veteran investment banker, is also joining us as a non-executive Director.
Philippe Bruggisser has over thirty years of aviation industry experience and was formerly COO of Swissair and latterly President of the airline’s holding company, SAir Group, whilst Scott Plumb has over twenty years of aerospace sales and marketing experience gained at Gulfstream Aerospace, Airbus Industrie and British Aerospace.
With the world’s largest owned commercial charter fleet outside of the Americas, these appointments will help us to both capitalise on our leading position in the industry and to ensure maximum success from the implementation of the next phase of our growth strategy – a phase of growth that we hope will make VistaJet an even more viable transportation solution for you in the future.
We are revolutionising our industry. VistaJet’s priority is to help you find the right solution for your flying profile. The solution for you could be a Program, On-Demand or a combination. VistaJet consistently provides a higher standard of luxury and value, with guaranteed availability.
We would be delighted to meet you personally and tell you more about how VistaJet could be the perfect flight solution partner for you. Please do not hesitate to contact me: I can be reached on [email protected].
Yours sincerely,
Thomas Flohr
____________________________________________________________ ________________________VistaJet Luftfahrtunternehmen GmbH
A VistaJet Group Company∙ Sterneckstraße 35
A-5020 Salzburg, Austria
When he says "We are revolutionising our industry", can someone from inside Vista tell me what exactly does he mean?
Looks to me that he's doing much the same as everyone else, except he owns the planes, which means he can't make money; is that the revolution?
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Positive Again Flintstone
"every tosspot salesperson/marketing w@nker"
what a way to describe some of your colleagues trying to keep you in a job!!!
Giving pilots a good name as ever!!!!! well done..
DJ101
what a way to describe some of your colleagues trying to keep you in a job!!!
Giving pilots a good name as ever!!!!! well done..
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Fair point but was there ever a pilot that didn't feel that he/she could do a better job of running the airline than the current management. They just know they can don't they. For example, this recession would nonchalantly be brushed aside with their ingenious plans and ideas.
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OH GOOD, DJ101 has joined the discussion to preach to us about the moral and ethics in General Aviation and how successful VJ is in these trying times. How hard everybody is working at VJ, bringing their buckets and shoveling the water out of the ship everyday. It's a desperate move and it's being sold as the second coming. The guy killed Swissair! Is it true that Vista is one by one leasing their aircraft to "Gov't Officials" in Africa? Who in their right mind would do something that desperate?
P.S. - And by the way, I am not sending you any PM's.
P.S. - And by the way, I am not sending you any PM's.
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Well said, Cyberdragon.
It works the other way around, not! Next time I see the Captain at the point of stalling on the approach, i'll scream 'Pull Up, Pull Up!!' and see if he finds that helpful constructive advice.
It works the other way around, not! Next time I see the Captain at the point of stalling on the approach, i'll scream 'Pull Up, Pull Up!!' and see if he finds that helpful constructive advice.
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Ah yes but there is a big difference:
Why is it that the collective knowledge of the industry by all those pilots who have flown for many companies over many years is ALWAYS totally ignored by management?
Anyone in this business for a couple of decades has seen the mistakes made in the boardroom, and continues to see the same ones again and again.
Management and crew are on the same side. A good manager uses ALL available resources at his/her disposal. To ignore or discount a collective knowledge base of perhaps hundreds of years is all to common and wholly iresponsible. Egos at work again.
Why is it that the collective knowledge of the industry by all those pilots who have flown for many companies over many years is ALWAYS totally ignored by management?
Anyone in this business for a couple of decades has seen the mistakes made in the boardroom, and continues to see the same ones again and again.
Management and crew are on the same side. A good manager uses ALL available resources at his/her disposal. To ignore or discount a collective knowledge base of perhaps hundreds of years is all to common and wholly iresponsible. Egos at work again.
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But if they are doing so well why are they offering contracts that, even in the current business climate and even for being Austrian, are nothing less than an insult?
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Oh dear, sense of humour failure treacle?
You misunderstood me. I'm not insulting aviation tosspot salesperson/marketing w@nkers. I'm insulting ALL tosspot salesperson/marketing w@nkers who, as any fule know, should be consigned to the 'B' ship* along with lawyers, estate agents, bankers and those who make the "quote" signs with the first two fingers of each hand when talking.
*History of the term "Telephone Sanitizer"
Oh dear, sense of humour failure treacle?
You misunderstood me. I'm not insulting aviation tosspot salesperson/marketing w@nkers. I'm insulting ALL tosspot salesperson/marketing w@nkers who, as any fule know, should be consigned to the 'B' ship* along with lawyers, estate agents, bankers and those who make the "quote" signs with the first two fingers of each hand when talking.
*History of the term "Telephone Sanitizer"
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Totally Clear Now
Flinstone
Now i understand where your coming from.........You Watch (nee study) "Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy"
Those lonely nights in your 5 star hotel must fly by, with you the internet and Sci Fi!!!!!!!!! oh and a box of mansize on the side, for when it all gets too exciting........
Now i understand where your coming from.........You Watch (nee study) "Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy"
Those lonely nights in your 5 star hotel must fly by, with you the internet and Sci Fi!!!!!!!!! oh and a box of mansize on the side, for when it all gets too exciting........
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Flint has a point, nothing more annoying than all those press-releases from all industries that seem to be written by 12 year olds who have just graduated from marketing-school where BS-speak like this is prevalent. They show up armed with all sorts of generic crap being spewed whilst milling around in ill-fitting NEXT suits and trying to re-invent the wheel.
Middle-management syndrome at its best, all trying to justify their brown-nosing existance to the boss whilst annoying the minions.
Middle-management syndrome at its best, all trying to justify their brown-nosing existance to the boss whilst annoying the minions.
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Flintsone doesn't have a point, he has a prejudice. There is good marketing/bad marketing just like good and bad pilots "ponsing about like they own the place, wanting limo's and 5 star at all times, and a hotel near the town because the per diem doesn't cover the cost of the taxi, and they need a bar with some atmosphere " that's equally as much bs as you get from any marketeer!!!!!
Everybody in business aviation needs to remember that there are loads more airplanes and therefore loads more jobs because nj marketing (no i dont work there) succeeded where the mom an pop shop dodgy management companies hadn't done for the previous 25 years.
You might think it's bs, but its kept 1000's of jet jockeys in work for 20 years..........don't kill the golden goose too quick, becasue remote control may be on it's way!!!!!!!!!
Flintsone doesn't have a point, he has a prejudice. There is good marketing/bad marketing just like good and bad pilots "ponsing about like they own the place, wanting limo's and 5 star at all times, and a hotel near the town because the per diem doesn't cover the cost of the taxi, and they need a bar with some atmosphere " that's equally as much bs as you get from any marketeer!!!!!
Everybody in business aviation needs to remember that there are loads more airplanes and therefore loads more jobs because nj marketing (no i dont work there) succeeded where the mom an pop shop dodgy management companies hadn't done for the previous 25 years.
You might think it's bs, but its kept 1000's of jet jockeys in work for 20 years..........don't kill the golden goose too quick, becasue remote control may be on it's way!!!!!!!!!
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Aaaah, the old 'pilot envy'.
DJ. My posts are in jest (which others 'get*') while yours clearly are not. Perhaps the current situation is causing you grief, perhaps it's a 'gentlemans' problem. I've no idea and are sorry you're bitter but if it helps you to make w@nker jokes at my expense then you fill your boots old son, get it out of your system (so to speak).
Anyone seen my tummy wipes?
*spot on description LRDriver
DJ. My posts are in jest (which others 'get*') while yours clearly are not. Perhaps the current situation is causing you grief, perhaps it's a 'gentlemans' problem. I've no idea and are sorry you're bitter but if it helps you to make w@nker jokes at my expense then you fill your boots old son, get it out of your system (so to speak).
Anyone seen my tummy wipes?
*spot on description LRDriver
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