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Sorry to keep bringing this up, but does anyone have the latest on hiring at VistaJet? I realise we are dealing with a bad economy right now - any idea how that will impact hiring?
Also, can someone explain the crew basing - are there mulitple domiciles like NJE? Rough "estimate" of starting FO salary on the Lear fleet would be appreciated if anyone has it.
Also, can someone explain the crew basing - are there mulitple domiciles like NJE? Rough "estimate" of starting FO salary on the Lear fleet would be appreciated if anyone has it.
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Sorry to bring this up again, but seen no answer to this one yet...
Anybody out there who knows more about the rosters for Lear60XR pilots at Vistajet?
I have been told you've got a max of 230 days duty/yr, and 35 calender days annual leave. But how many duty days can we expect in reality? For how many days at a time do you leave on average?
What region could we expect to operate? Have been buzzing around european skies for several years and haven't seen much VistaJet. They operate more east, I assume?
Thx for your massive response...
Anybody out there who knows more about the rosters for Lear60XR pilots at Vistajet?
I have been told you've got a max of 230 days duty/yr, and 35 calender days annual leave. But how many duty days can we expect in reality? For how many days at a time do you leave on average?
What region could we expect to operate? Have been buzzing around european skies for several years and haven't seen much VistaJet. They operate more east, I assume?
Thx for your massive response...
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Had a call with the CP today, seemed like a nice guy, ex Lufthansa. I am rated and lots of time on the CL300 so they are interested in me on that one. Basically the same as every on here says, told me the starting pay on the 300 as CPT is 85EURO but would change soon, thats really WAY too low. I do like the idea of so many days on so many off as right now i am TRI on the Falcon 2000EASy and pay is enourmous as its been day rate for the last month and for the next month or more but no time off. Only question i have for anyone is after reading that austria has about 40 percent tax, does that apply to us yankees? If so there is no way i would work for that, not worth it. I worked a few years ago in vienna on contract and paid no tax, but maybe that was why. Otherwise seems like a good company, CP was an honest guy the impression i got.
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Interesting.... I am not sure what kind of experience our applicants have at the moment but I am pretty sure we have plenty of experienced pilots applying with the current financial crisis. I have not heard anything about a pay rise and I fail to see why they would have to make any adjustments to the T&Cs at moment. Not saying I would turn down a pay rise, just trying to be realistic.....
Found this on an Austrian tax web site. Not sure how accurate this is but will at least give you an idea of the tax situation.
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My German is not the best but in short it says:
0-10.000 euro - No tax
10-25.000 - 23 % tax
25-51.000 - 33.5 % tax
51 and upwards - 50 % tax.
Then comes personal tax deductions.
Looking forward to that pay rise!!!
Good luck!
/CP
Found this on an Austrian tax web site. Not sure how accurate this is but will at least give you an idea of the tax situation.
Beträgt die Summe der Einkünfte nach Abzug der Sonderabgaben weniger als 10.000 Euro für das Gesamtjahr, sind keine Steuern zu zahlen. Andernfalls sind die nächsten 15.000 Euro mit einem Steuersatz von 23 Prozent zu belegen. Bei einem Jahreseinkommen von 25.000 Euro beträgt die Einkommensteuerlast somit 5.750 Euro.
Für die Einkommensteile über 25.000 Euro und bis 51.000 Euro liegt der anzuwendende Steuersatz bei 33,5 Prozent, über 51.000 Euro beträgt er 50 Prozent.
Für die Einkommensteile über 25.000 Euro und bis 51.000 Euro liegt der anzuwendende Steuersatz bei 33,5 Prozent, über 51.000 Euro beträgt er 50 Prozent.
My German is not the best but in short it says:
0-10.000 euro - No tax
10-25.000 - 23 % tax
25-51.000 - 33.5 % tax
51 and upwards - 50 % tax.
Then comes personal tax deductions.
Looking forward to that pay rise!!!
Good luck!
/CP
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Thank you Captain Prop for your information. For pilots without type rating in one of your aircraft types, how determine aircraft assignment? Is it by aircraft available? Would super high time, no-type rating pilot be considered for Global Express and CL604 while lower-time, no-rating pilot would be considered for Lear 40XR? Just trying to understand where I could fit in (although I would pretty much fly any Bombardier product offered). 
I certainly wouldn't mind flying this VistaJet Lear 40XR into Bhutan - nice approach:
YouTube - VistaJet Bhutan Approach 12/2007
Another question. In terms of potential progression, how long could one expect on average to upgrade to PIC? If someone starts on the CL300 as an FO, would the first PIC slot be in the Lears (internal promotions from Lear through Global) or in the CL300?
I certainly wouldn't mind flying this VistaJet Lear 40XR into Bhutan - nice approach:YouTube - VistaJet Bhutan Approach 12/2007
Another question. In terms of potential progression, how long could one expect on average to upgrade to PIC? If someone starts on the CL300 as an FO, would the first PIC slot be in the Lears (internal promotions from Lear through Global) or in the CL300?
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For pilots without type rating in one of your aircraft types, how determine aircraft assignment? Is it by aircraft available?
I heard that there's no direct entries on the (single) Global Express, only internal promotion.
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Not sure how promotion goes when you're CL300 rated already and have some good hrs on it, but if you join as low-timer, you start on the Lears, get your 2nd TR added if you perform well (that would be the CL604/5s), and then get back onto the Learjets again on the left seat.
I got no idea how it works if you're typed and have a considerable amount of hrs.
PS: The Bhutan appr vid is
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Correction and Clarification
To Flexjet you are correct, and to Grecian this is the ONLY aircraft which is not wholly owned by VistaJet.
Grecian I understand the industry well enough to appreciate your comments and understand your scepticism. However, company loyalty aside, let me assure you that we are striving to bring some very simple and effective business principles to an industry which, outside the US, operates in a very inefficient way. I would ask you the following "why would you ever reposition an aircraft empty back to its home base just because that's where it lives". If you had no interest in the costs of operation aka private operation, then no problems, but if you want to make money then efficiency is the key. If you dont own and have complete control of the fleet it is impossible.
Business aviation is not easy at the moment, but I look forward to helping to build an excellent company based in Europe but operating seamlessly from Europe to HK, via everything in between, and maybe we will end up working for the same firm.
Hope this helps
DJ101.
Grecian I understand the industry well enough to appreciate your comments and understand your scepticism. However, company loyalty aside, let me assure you that we are striving to bring some very simple and effective business principles to an industry which, outside the US, operates in a very inefficient way. I would ask you the following "why would you ever reposition an aircraft empty back to its home base just because that's where it lives". If you had no interest in the costs of operation aka private operation, then no problems, but if you want to make money then efficiency is the key. If you dont own and have complete control of the fleet it is impossible.
Business aviation is not easy at the moment, but I look forward to helping to build an excellent company based in Europe but operating seamlessly from Europe to HK, via everything in between, and maybe we will end up working for the same firm.
Hope this helps
DJ101.
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Thanks for that info. Were those people typed on the CL604/605 or did they have to buy their types? Were they offered multiple fleet types or was that where a vacancy existed at the time (on that fleet)? What types of backgrounds/experience did they have when they got hired (other corporate flying experience - did they fly 328s with you)?
As far as pilot domiciles are concerned, is there a specific list of domiciles like NJE or are they just the larger cities in Europe with many airline connections? Where can I find the domicile list?
Thanks for that info. Were those people typed on the CL604/605 or did they have to buy their types? Were they offered multiple fleet types or was that where a vacancy existed at the time (on that fleet)? What types of backgrounds/experience did they have when they got hired (other corporate flying experience - did they fly 328s with you)?
As far as pilot domiciles are concerned, is there a specific list of domiciles like NJE or are they just the larger cities in Europe with many airline connections? Where can I find the domicile list?
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As far as pilot domiciles are concerned, is there a specific list of domiciles like NJE or are they just the larger cities in Europe with many airline connections? Where can I find the domicile list?
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Crazy things have happened before in this business, but I think this latest rumour is just that - a rumour....
Still hiring as per last week, still people completing type rating courses etc etc....
CP
Still hiring as per last week, still people completing type rating courses etc etc....
CP
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a friend of mine is waiting for a contract with vista. They promised him to start s FO on the CL605. He is not type rated, but he has some good PIC time on turbo prop.
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speed alive,
Cheers. I am looking for hiring trends for Vista. Sounds like high-time (with or without jet time) could get you a seat in a CL604/605. Obviously seat vacancies in various fleets and aircraft orders would play roles as well. A seat in a CL605 or CL300 would suit me just fine if I got a call...
Cheers. I am looking for hiring trends for Vista. Sounds like high-time (with or without jet time) could get you a seat in a CL604/605. Obviously seat vacancies in various fleets and aircraft orders would play roles as well. A seat in a CL605 or CL300 would suit me just fine if I got a call
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