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Although beneficial, as most employees are German native speakers, German is not a requirement anymore.
Interview is not really an interview, this could depend on your experience I guess, it is more of a information meeting where you are given information on the operation, fleet, contract etc etc...
Pay depends on fleet and experience and includes basic pay + night stop allowance. Medical and license renewal paid for, no LOL, state pension (ie don't count on anything, by no fault of Vista though), no private health insurance, company telephone, company credit card.
No company car for "normal" line pilots as far as I know.
Gateway system like NetJets.
Austrian or German contract depending on where you live.
3 (?) Challenger 850s have arrived, Lears, CL605s and CL300s arriving almost every month. Lear 85s ordered. I have no idea if, like previous posters indicated, they will operate all of the ordered jets but so far it looks like their orders has been placed for a real expansion and not for onward sales. However, having said that, they have a policy of not operating jets older then 3 years (see web site) so if they stick to this they will soon start selling of older ones as newer ones are arriving. Who knows.....?
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Interview is not really an interview, this could depend on your experience I guess, it is more of a information meeting where you are given information on the operation, fleet, contract etc etc...
Pay depends on fleet and experience and includes basic pay + night stop allowance. Medical and license renewal paid for, no LOL, state pension (ie don't count on anything, by no fault of Vista though), no private health insurance, company telephone, company credit card.
No company car for "normal" line pilots as far as I know.
Gateway system like NetJets.
Austrian or German contract depending on where you live.
3 (?) Challenger 850s have arrived, Lears, CL605s and CL300s arriving almost every month. Lear 85s ordered. I have no idea if, like previous posters indicated, they will operate all of the ordered jets but so far it looks like their orders has been placed for a real expansion and not for onward sales. However, having said that, they have a policy of not operating jets older then 3 years (see web site) so if they stick to this they will soon start selling of older ones as newer ones are arriving. Who knows.....?
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is it another low cost teutonic management company ?
2) What´s wrong with Germans? I find your snidely remarks quite offensive.
3) Maybe you should check their web page to find out about the company before you post? Low cost is not exactly a fitting description...
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Well, "teutonic" could refer to "Germanic people" too. Which looking at it from a linguistic point of view would include UK, Austria, Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Germany etc etc etc, about 560 million people. The common ancestor of all the languages in this branch is Proto-Germanic. Not sure what jr was referring to...? 
VistaJet operates no managed aircrafts at the moment and are, as far as I am aware of, not planning on either. Although, I have heard about a jet being operated for one of the owners or something along those lines....
"low cost" ? Like the previous poster stated, not really low cost if you ask me. The package for crew is as I have stated above, weather that is appealing or not is up to each and every one to decide.
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VistaJet operates no managed aircrafts at the moment and are, as far as I am aware of, not planning on either. Although, I have heard about a jet being operated for one of the owners or something along those lines....
"low cost" ? Like the previous poster stated, not really low cost if you ask me. The package for crew is as I have stated above, weather that is appealing or not is up to each and every one to decide.
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....and the company is registered in Germany too as "AirExecutive Charter GmbH", Austria as "VistaJet" and "JViation". "VistaJet Holding SA" registered in Switzerland, all according to their website.
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a different view
Just so there is no confusion I am an employee of Vistajet and am pleased that the majority of postings here are correct. This is not an advert but would like to help my fellow ppruners to know a little of what makes the company tick. They are very forward thinking, different to all other European companies as they own their own fleet and have committed a vast sum to fly aircraft , not wholesale, and want to provide excellent aircraft for professionals to fly and customers to enjoy.
I hope we get the chance to work together as company owners like Visajet's are a very rare breed.
Hope this helps in some way and see you in Salzburg.
I hope we get the chance to work together as company owners like Visajet's are a very rare breed.
Hope this helps in some way and see you in Salzburg.
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Guys , sorry if you got the "Teutonic" on the wrong side as I was just referring to the German & Austrian florishing exec. management company....please take no offense !
the "low cost" cause mention was that 90 KEUR gross salary per annum for a captain on the Glex Jet (taxed 45% in Austria ?) for me it's real low cost....but it's just my point of view !
the "low cost" cause mention was that 90 KEUR gross salary per annum for a captain on the Glex Jet (taxed 45% in Austria ?) for me it's real low cost....but it's just my point of view !
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Hi guys,
As far as the 90 K EUR basic for the GLEX goes I have no idea since I am not flying the GLEX. But what I can say, again, is that starting pay depends on your experience, type, no type etc etc. So there is no way to be able to say that pay for this or that type is xx EUR. I know that some people in vista makes more then the mentioned 90 K, but i also know people who makes less. You only get what you are worth on the current market, right? If they could get experienced and qualified people flying their jets safely around the world for 50 K a year then I guess they would. Right? Its all really about supply and demand and has nothing to do with "low cost" really....Remember, we are working for commercial companies who's only goal is to make money. Simple as that.
The same goes for the 45% tax, it all depends on your situation and weather you have a good tax adviser etc etc. I do not know the Austrian/German tax system that well but in most EU countries you can make loads of tax deductions for everything from interest payments on your house, car, commuting costs, children, school fees, double housing (if applicable), phone bills, private pensions, private health insurance, LOL, duty days on weekends and official holidays etc etc all depending on where you live and where your contract is (ie Austria or Germany in this case). I have lived most of my life in some of the hardest taxed countries in the world and I don't think I have ever payed more then 30-35% income tax in any 12 rolling 12 months.
Get a good tax adviser, thats my advice. Remember, sometimes you have to spend to save. My advice however is for free.
Good luck!
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As far as the 90 K EUR basic for the GLEX goes I have no idea since I am not flying the GLEX. But what I can say, again, is that starting pay depends on your experience, type, no type etc etc. So there is no way to be able to say that pay for this or that type is xx EUR. I know that some people in vista makes more then the mentioned 90 K, but i also know people who makes less. You only get what you are worth on the current market, right? If they could get experienced and qualified people flying their jets safely around the world for 50 K a year then I guess they would. Right? Its all really about supply and demand and has nothing to do with "low cost" really....Remember, we are working for commercial companies who's only goal is to make money. Simple as that.
The same goes for the 45% tax, it all depends on your situation and weather you have a good tax adviser etc etc. I do not know the Austrian/German tax system that well but in most EU countries you can make loads of tax deductions for everything from interest payments on your house, car, commuting costs, children, school fees, double housing (if applicable), phone bills, private pensions, private health insurance, LOL, duty days on weekends and official holidays etc etc all depending on where you live and where your contract is (ie Austria or Germany in this case). I have lived most of my life in some of the hardest taxed countries in the world and I don't think I have ever payed more then 30-35% income tax in any 12 rolling 12 months.
Get a good tax adviser, thats my advice. Remember, sometimes you have to spend to save. My advice however is for free.
Good luck!
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Vistajet
Can anyone working at Vistajet give me some details.
How does the gateway system work can you live anywhere in Europe ?
Do they fly with good SOP's ?
As they own their own Aircraft they must hold an AOC, are they then operating to Austrian Flt Time Lims ?
Where can one expect to spend most of their time working ?
Any idea of what Salary a Lear Capt can expect to make?
Tax issues, if you are living outside Aus/Ger can you sort out your tax in your home country ?
Thanks for any Info
How does the gateway system work can you live anywhere in Europe ?
Do they fly with good SOP's ?
As they own their own Aircraft they must hold an AOC, are they then operating to Austrian Flt Time Lims ?
Where can one expect to spend most of their time working ?
Any idea of what Salary a Lear Capt can expect to make?
Tax issues, if you are living outside Aus/Ger can you sort out your tax in your home country ?
Thanks for any Info
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Gateway system - See above.
Good SOP's? Whats that?
EU ops flight time limitations as of very soon regardless of contract I assume.
Salary - see above (depends on your experience)
Tax issues - depends on the tax treaty between the country of residence and the country where your contract was signed (Germany or Austria). So in answer to your question - It depends, but I believe you would have to first pay in your tax and then claim it back to "sort it out" in your own country.
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Good SOP's? Whats that?
EU ops flight time limitations as of very soon regardless of contract I assume.
Salary - see above (depends on your experience)
Tax issues - depends on the tax treaty between the country of residence and the country where your contract was signed (Germany or Austria). So in answer to your question - It depends, but I believe you would have to first pay in your tax and then claim it back to "sort it out" in your own country.
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3 (?) Challenger 850s have arrived, Lears, CL605s and CL300s arriving almost every month.
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Ok, well not according to Austrian CAAs web site. Looks like at least two are operating at the moment -ILI and -ILY.
Then again, I may be wrong on this one. I stand to be corrected.
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Then again, I may be wrong on this one. I stand to be corrected.
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Hi,
anybody news from VistJet? When do they start with their new selection proc.? Any information about the Asses. an SIM screening ( wich SIM 737 ..?????)
Thanks a lot.
anybody news from VistJet? When do they start with their new selection proc.? Any information about the Asses. an SIM screening ( wich SIM 737 ..?????)
Thanks a lot.
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Hi folks,
Vistajet is still looking for pilots. If you meet the requirements (dangerous goods, CRM, experience....) you will be invited for an interview with Mr. Ambs.
Usually they invite 4-5 guys and Mr. Ambs gives a 2 hour introduction into the company. Here some infos:
- right now no roster because of the lots of supervision flights
- they plan a roster at the end of next year (prob. 14/14)
- all pilots will get an Austrian contract (no more German contracts even for the German pilots)
- 5 weeks vacation
- daily allowance
- company mobile phone (privat calls allowed)
- company credit card
- 3 year bond for non typerated pilots
- Type-rating: pilot has to pay for flight & hotel
- no direct entry Global & Airbus crews (seniority)
- salary depends on aircraft type ( CPT 605 : 80000 - 105000 Euro/year)
- Vista will introduce a salary structure within the next 3 month
- Vista also plans an assessment for recruiting next year (SIM...)
After the general introduction personal interview with Mr. Ambs. Questions about prefered aircraft, salary, cv, and minor JAR/EU OPS. Relaxing athmosphere, nice and friendly people.
Vistajet is still looking for pilots. If you meet the requirements (dangerous goods, CRM, experience....) you will be invited for an interview with Mr. Ambs.
Usually they invite 4-5 guys and Mr. Ambs gives a 2 hour introduction into the company. Here some infos:
- right now no roster because of the lots of supervision flights
- they plan a roster at the end of next year (prob. 14/14)
- all pilots will get an Austrian contract (no more German contracts even for the German pilots)
- 5 weeks vacation
- daily allowance
- company mobile phone (privat calls allowed)
- company credit card
- 3 year bond for non typerated pilots
- Type-rating: pilot has to pay for flight & hotel
- no direct entry Global & Airbus crews (seniority)
- salary depends on aircraft type ( CPT 605 : 80000 - 105000 Euro/year)
- Vista will introduce a salary structure within the next 3 month
- Vista also plans an assessment for recruiting next year (SIM...)
After the general introduction personal interview with Mr. Ambs. Questions about prefered aircraft, salary, cv, and minor JAR/EU OPS. Relaxing athmosphere, nice and friendly people.
