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Piaggio Avanti and RWY less than 1000 meters

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Old 10th Aug 2012, 20:41
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Apart from the PD808 'Vespajet', when has Piaggio ever made a quiet aircraft!! It's those pusher props; P136, P166, P180 all suffered from prop noise.
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Old 11th Aug 2012, 14:11
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Just buy a KA200GT, or KA350 on most flights the extra 90kts might save you 15-20 minutes. 2 hrs would get you to Paris"or darn close". However either of these give a more flexible payload/range envelope, have better runway performance opening up more landing spots "including some turf strips" possibly closer to ultimate destination. Yes the P180 is a sexy beast, but you may want to look at the actual hourly costs including maintenance.
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Old 2nd Nov 2012, 12:15
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Wink Avanti p180 field requirements

The Avanti has some good speed but in the wrong part of the speed profile- Approach and Landing. It competes with 777 when approaching with flaps down!
Serious look at the take off performance data is required while operating out of small airports.
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Old 2nd Nov 2012, 21:38
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Originally Posted by rigpiggy
but you may want to look at the actual hourly costs including maintenance
I don't get it. Surely it's the same for any twin PT6-powered a/c - only extra cost being composite inspections?
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Old 3rd Nov 2012, 07:31
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Someone told me they kicked it out for being too noise, but is it really louder than a jet?
I sat in class close to EDDN airport one day when we had a circular saw on steroids going over us time and again. Sure enough it was D-IPIA, one of the early Piggies....doing circuits for pilot retraining after sitting in mx for ages cause no spares were available after a tip onto the wing on a crosswind landing.

Not really that loud but a very annoying noise. A KingAir sounds way less bothersome.

This airplane was operated out of a 1000mtr strip (elev 1916ft), the pilots were not too happy there...

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