Medevac Aircraft Required
Grandpa Aerotart
I know next to nothing of US regs.
I'll take your word about the differences between a 20F and 200.
The investigations we did on older Hawkers was they were a maintenance nightmare airframe wise. I'm talking now of the 700 and 400 Fan. 8 yearly total x ray requiring dismantling? Perhaps doesn't apply to US registered Hawkers.
I've not flown a Hawker, although I believe they are very nice to pole around. I have compared the interiors of our 200 to an 800xp that is new an spends more time in our hangar than you would credit, and feel the Falcon is roomier in back although the 800xp has a little more space up front where I sit.
Performance wise out of our home base Seletar(ASDA 5400) the Falcon beats the 800xp on payload range although from an unlimiting runway they would both pull max loads obviously with the 800xp having an edge on max range. I think the Falcon 200 would probably beat the Hawker in cruise speed.
I'm an unashamed Falcon fan I'm afraid, I would happily fly nothing else but Falcons for the rest of my career, even if it was just the 200 and not the flasher Falcon 900/2000 etc.
Having flown British before in the airlines and owning a British car(XJSV12)I firmly believe the British HAVE NEVER applied the KISS principle to anything mechanical they have ever built, let alone aeroplanes.
Chuck
I'll take your word about the differences between a 20F and 200.
The investigations we did on older Hawkers was they were a maintenance nightmare airframe wise. I'm talking now of the 700 and 400 Fan. 8 yearly total x ray requiring dismantling? Perhaps doesn't apply to US registered Hawkers.
I've not flown a Hawker, although I believe they are very nice to pole around. I have compared the interiors of our 200 to an 800xp that is new an spends more time in our hangar than you would credit, and feel the Falcon is roomier in back although the 800xp has a little more space up front where I sit.
Performance wise out of our home base Seletar(ASDA 5400) the Falcon beats the 800xp on payload range although from an unlimiting runway they would both pull max loads obviously with the 800xp having an edge on max range. I think the Falcon 200 would probably beat the Hawker in cruise speed.
I'm an unashamed Falcon fan I'm afraid, I would happily fly nothing else but Falcons for the rest of my career, even if it was just the 200 and not the flasher Falcon 900/2000 etc.
Having flown British before in the airlines and owning a British car(XJSV12)I firmly believe the British HAVE NEVER applied the KISS principle to anything mechanical they have ever built, let alone aeroplanes.
Chuck
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The Lockheed 1329-25 (JetStar2) might be suitable, has the range and a LARGE cabin, but with 4 engines, rather thirsty.
However, the capital cost is reasonable and with a recent heavy check, trouble-free ops can be assured. A delight to fly and the pax like it a lot. Very good tech support from Lockheed and Duncan Aviation.
However, the capital cost is reasonable and with a recent heavy check, trouble-free ops can be assured. A delight to fly and the pax like it a lot. Very good tech support from Lockheed and Duncan Aviation.
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Hi,
if you´re really interested in ambulance, talk to the german operator AERODIENST.
They do Medevac for the german autoclub ADAC, operating 2 KA350; 1 LR35; 2 HS125-1000. They have their own Strechter/ loading System (STC´ed), the best i´ve ever seen, and its for sale. As for availble space, the med personell hates the Lear ! So, if you need a contact there, try 0049 911 93560 (telephone desk). They´re also a pretty good maintenace shop for LR / HS / Beech / Piper.
Their Internetadress is AERO-DIENST.de or aerodienst.de .
Greeetings
if you´re really interested in ambulance, talk to the german operator AERODIENST.
They do Medevac for the german autoclub ADAC, operating 2 KA350; 1 LR35; 2 HS125-1000. They have their own Strechter/ loading System (STC´ed), the best i´ve ever seen, and its for sale. As for availble space, the med personell hates the Lear ! So, if you need a contact there, try 0049 911 93560 (telephone desk). They´re also a pretty good maintenace shop for LR / HS / Beech / Piper.
Their Internetadress is AERO-DIENST.de or aerodienst.de .
Greeetings
I know its not as fast/flash as a jet, but for cost/payload/field conditions the B350 would be right up their, and you could have two lifeports plus medicos and still carry full fuel.
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125 door access;
in my previous life I was a Design Engineer
for an (in)famous local company,
we investigated stretcher access on the
Co exec' flight 125-700;
Comclusion:- a bit tight, but OK, so long as the galley with the full height forward panel is not installed, (most have a cut down panel to facilitate access)
The Co sold the jet before we had a chance
to pursue it further.
(I got my first jet time in it though
thank you very much ;-)
Lears are pretty low in ceiling height in comparison, the 125 was always preferred
for general exec' pax, but now
challengers seem to rule from what I have seen when I taxi past the old place.
in my previous life I was a Design Engineer
for an (in)famous local company,
we investigated stretcher access on the
Co exec' flight 125-700;
Comclusion:- a bit tight, but OK, so long as the galley with the full height forward panel is not installed, (most have a cut down panel to facilitate access)
The Co sold the jet before we had a chance
to pursue it further.
(I got my first jet time in it though
thank you very much ;-)
Lears are pretty low in ceiling height in comparison, the 125 was always preferred
for general exec' pax, but now
challengers seem to rule from what I have seen when I taxi past the old place.
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I'd look into the IAI 1124, otherwise known as a westwind. While relatively inexpensive to purchase 1.7 - 2.7 million dollars it gives you the most bang for your buck. Low operating cost,about $800/hr along with low maintenance, and good comfort it is an extremley reliable aircraft. The cabin is larger than that of a lear 35 plus it has an enclosed/separate lav, not a honeypot, and a large galley. You also can't compare the range with a westwind, able to travel 2400 miles and still have ifr reserves. The Garrett 731 is also well documented and very reliable. While she's not the prettiest bird on the ramp there is no other plane in its class that can do what she can do for the cost. <img src="wink.gif" border="0">
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That's why the aircraft did not sell well. However the aircraft support is now fully operated by a USA company. General Dynamics bought them and Gulfstream and renamed the Astra and Galaxy lines to G100 and G200 respectively. However the old westwind still carries it's original moniker. If it's affordable an Astra is also a quality aircraft but money- wise a lear might be a better deal. <img src="frown.gif" border="0">
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LGW,
Dont knock the Astra SPX as you will find it is the most popular air ambulance jet in Europe @ present.
Plenty on the Swiss + other Euro registers - and a bargain price compared with other hardware @ present, a lot of good aircraft for your your money and genuine legs to do the job in question.
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Dont knock the Astra SPX as you will find it is the most popular air ambulance jet in Europe @ present.
Plenty on the Swiss + other Euro registers - and a bargain price compared with other hardware @ present, a lot of good aircraft for your your money and genuine legs to do the job in question.
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i flew the falcon 200 for medivac. full efis plus fms. we fly anytime and almost anywhere kathmandu, kunming, former russia, africa, china and more. did not have much of performance penalty. had 2 stretchers with full icu facility installed. seats 8-9 pax inclu patient with full fuel, range about 2400nm. very reliable machine. maintainence a bit high though. enjoy doing medivac and will do it again. <img src="wink.gif" border="0">
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My company is currently phasing out the Falcon 10 in full medevac configuration. 1 stretcher and 4 seats, easy loading through cabin door. The fastest ambulance plane in Europe.
immediately available
A sad loss for us Falcon-drivers...
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A sad loss for us Falcon-drivers...
