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Old 7th Mar 2006, 03:59
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Dromader question...

Can anyone tell me why the Turbine Dromader has a placard that says 'max head wind component 34mph?' Did i miss something during ground school???
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Probably goes backwards in anything greater.
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Understand at this speed the wing will work but the tail will not(?)

Should be placards "Pre-flight - Long walk ahead" and "Fall from here and you will hurt yourself"
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Maybe it should have a placard that says 'enter at own risk'. They certainly take the fun out of the big days.
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I operated a PT6-67a Drom for too short a time and there was no such limitation on it. A great ag aircraft and a pleasure to fly.
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Lol you'd have to say that wouldn't you HM.
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Exclamation Epileptic Pilots

Wirecutter. I believe the placarding is the result of an AD brought out after a recent accident. I didn't go into it too much but from what I gathered, it was something to do with the effect of strobe lights on the prop at night with such a low ground speed and the tendency that this has to send the epileptic PIC into a trance, eventually sending him to sleep. I hope I got that right. You know how difficult it is to read an ATSB Report these days with all the mumbo jumbo they come out with! Welcome to PPrune HM!
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Wirecutter, how many hrs on turbine droms have you done?
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The Droms are good for one thing, seeing how many ducks you can impale on the 2 foot long pitot tube... If you're a gentleman you can pull the power back and ease it in slow when you come in from behind....
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Ducks are too smart be lined up like that, they would rather come through the wind screen and meet you personally.
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A reasonable question you would tend to think should get a sensible answer, HM you excluded, the rest of you just post absolute rubbish none of it worth while even reading. Some of you really should get a life.
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Well I'm still interested in hearing the reason if anyone can help.

The way it was explained to me seemed a little patchy.

I've seen the placard, cannot remember if it was in a radial or turbine.

Perhaps only some S/N or versions are affected? Is the placard on machines ex USA (MPH)?

I don't know the answer. I'm sure someone does that is willing to help. May even help someone avoid a mishap
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enginair

may be it has something to do with a vg kit , another placard is vne with spray gear fitted 104 knots
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Well that was all riveting stuff chaps!!! NOT!
Where is old SnsGuppy when we really do need an opinon?
Probably fencing I guess!
And you Nu-Aggy really! Take your helmet off, stick a couple of tampons in your ears and lighten up a bit.
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Agwaggon, you sound like a bit of a legend. Do you and Sir HC drink at the same bar? if so, next time you're heading out give me a call and don't worry an answer on the drom placard is coming.(yeah right)
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[And you Nu-Aggy really! Take your helmet off, stick a couple of tampons in your ears and lighten up a bit.[/QUOTE]
Agwagon, look I have had my helment off for a while now and the tampons out of my ears, being a decent bloke like yourself I am sure you would not post dribble like you see quite regularly, and if all had to put their own name up as did HMcKILLOP, the bull would be gone and the discussions possibily may quite useful and informative.
Look forward to havin a beer shortly.
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Got me stuffed why a thread like this would develop into a blue.

Seems there are some experts here - but still no answer to the original question.

Doesn't anyone actually know the answer?

(yes, this is as riveting as it gets untill someone can come up with a better thread)
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Sorry Everyone, I was only looking to satisfy my curiosity, i have not seen this placard in a radial and thought there must be a reason for it, I don't really think we would be doing much in 34mph winds anyway.

While some of the dry humour and wit does give me a chuckle it is a shame that most of the posts are becoming quite petty.
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34mph headwind component

the placard is listed in the pzl m18 flight manual for the radial engine unit i.e original aircraft but no reason for it unless it was the max headwind they could find when certifing it like max crosswind
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Don't be silly Nu Aggy.
Obiviously if we put our names to this the ducks would know who we are !!
And as for the 34mph thing that started all this I have phoned an old drinking mate of mine in Vladivostok who several years ago was involved with a lady of the night from Warsaw who's day job was RRRRrrrivvvvetttinnggg at the PZL factory. Now she has asked around for us after she knocked off down at the local boozer (albeit very late) and I'm happy to confirm to you all that Sir HC's explanation for the placard is 100% correct.
And thats two G's please Nu Aggy. Mum gets a bit upset when someone spells our name wrong.

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