Dromader question...
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except for one thing
the recent accident took place a while ago , because it is in a pretty old flight manual , picky i know (100% correct ) , just trying to help with the detail ?
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My my, how a simple question can evoke such emotion! After having done an hour or two in these machines, I am quite sure the placard is referring to the fact the main plane will fly before the tail plane. For those who have not experienced this on take-off, you will only do it once.............
Camel Jockey, use your spurs man!
Camel Jockey, use your spurs man!
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Well hell Ladies, I quess the quesstion is answered and that should bring an end to this receint bout of sillyness (sadly). I see some thought there was a bit of agro in there but I didn't see any, only boredom.
I noticed quite a few new key boards in there as well so the number of people in Oz keeping an eye on the site must be growing. As healthy topics of debate emerge in the near future that will be good. I also noticed there are a growing number of operators involved as well as drivers and that is even better still as some topics will need that balance.
I've not started a thread on here before but I have couple in mind that should get the fingers wagging quite a bit.
The F/W industry has had over its share of prangs this summer with a lot of totals. Perhaps we were a bit fortunate that out of this only a couple were fatal. I know that the families and other people involved in those ones will see nothing fortunate about it but I'm sure you know what I mean. The rotary ag side sadly seemed to be much worse this season with many people loosing life or being seriously injured.
As I grow older or maybe just old and hopefully wiser I can't help but to reflect on the importance of our famlies to us all and probably more so how important we all are to them. Most of us have seen first hand the devastation that is left behind when one of us checks out of here a little earlier than expected.
So now as we come to the tired part of the season how about all you duck hunters out there keep your heads down and eyes wide open untill the very last landing!!
I noticed quite a few new key boards in there as well so the number of people in Oz keeping an eye on the site must be growing. As healthy topics of debate emerge in the near future that will be good. I also noticed there are a growing number of operators involved as well as drivers and that is even better still as some topics will need that balance.
I've not started a thread on here before but I have couple in mind that should get the fingers wagging quite a bit.
The F/W industry has had over its share of prangs this summer with a lot of totals. Perhaps we were a bit fortunate that out of this only a couple were fatal. I know that the families and other people involved in those ones will see nothing fortunate about it but I'm sure you know what I mean. The rotary ag side sadly seemed to be much worse this season with many people loosing life or being seriously injured.
As I grow older or maybe just old and hopefully wiser I can't help but to reflect on the importance of our famlies to us all and probably more so how important we all are to them. Most of us have seen first hand the devastation that is left behind when one of us checks out of here a little earlier than expected.
So now as we come to the tired part of the season how about all you duck hunters out there keep your heads down and eyes wide open untill the very last landing!!
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Good point, Agwaggon. Could just as easily be anybody here. Today, tonight, next week, next year. Hard place to be for the operators and pilots/families concerned.
Nobody goes out there intending to have an accident, but not everything goes right all the time in this caper. Especially at night.
Nobody goes out there intending to have an accident, but not everything goes right all the time in this caper. Especially at night.
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Agwaggon, great to see you concerned for us all, sounds like you are ageing rapidly these days, may I suggest it might be wise if you hung up your helment.
Currawong, I find night flying some what easier than day light operations as I do not have to bother about magpies or currawongs getting speared on my pitot tube.
Currawong, I find night flying some what easier than day light operations as I do not have to bother about magpies or currawongs getting speared on my pitot tube.
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You Clown aa3
Originally Posted by airag3
Lol you'd have to say that wouldn't you HM.
Please explain??????
Harley has been a long term contributer to our industry.
He is held in high esteem by many in our game. He has perhaps flown more Ag then you & I put together.
Perhaps you owe an apology to "HM" for your outburst.
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Originally Posted by airag3
M18 , the first 3 letters ( lol) set the tone of the reply ( i.e. jocular), I cannot be bothered typing you're a goose.
AA3 you can dish it but you can't take it, I am surprised. Here is some free advice, if you are going to become a success in this industry be thick skinned. Also grow a personality, is calling me a goose the best you have got. Now take your thumb out of your mouth, you should not suck it anymore!!!!!!!!!!! also if you are to tired to type away, do a touch typing course, I hope when you are at work you are not too tired to wash your plane & do a daily preflight inspection.
Agwaggon,
I encourage you to go ahead & start some new threads, lets "get the keyboards wagging". You touched on some important issues our industry faces. Only yesterday another fatal ag accident has been found. Tragic for the family & friends close to the deceased pilot. VH-ZIP in the riverina.
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Interesting. I've never seen the placard, personally. Perhaps the requirement for it was removed in the turbine conversions (eg 45R, -11, etc).
I have no idea where the original flight manual went, but the copy I had was prefaced by a note that said something to the effect of "warning, nothing in this manual should be followed, or believed." It was a directly translated manual printed on some thick, primitive looking paper, and my guess is that the numbers and information there wasn't worth the paper it was printed on. That particular manual came from the place that did the turbine conversion, and if I recall, had a lot of information and printing still in cyrillic or polish or whatever it was.
I guess I don't understand why people don't like the airplane. It's slow, sure. But then blazing speed has never been a top asset for me in an ag airplane. It carries a load well enough, has a decent wing, and so far has been pretty good to me in terrain.
By comparison, the AT-802, which is a lot more airplane, has a fair number of limitations, a lot longer ground roll, and isn't nearly as polite at it's performance limits...though it's a lot more solid to fly. The dromader does what it's designed to do; it hauls a decent load at a relatively low cost.
I have no idea where the original flight manual went, but the copy I had was prefaced by a note that said something to the effect of "warning, nothing in this manual should be followed, or believed." It was a directly translated manual printed on some thick, primitive looking paper, and my guess is that the numbers and information there wasn't worth the paper it was printed on. That particular manual came from the place that did the turbine conversion, and if I recall, had a lot of information and printing still in cyrillic or polish or whatever it was.
I guess I don't understand why people don't like the airplane. It's slow, sure. But then blazing speed has never been a top asset for me in an ag airplane. It carries a load well enough, has a decent wing, and so far has been pretty good to me in terrain.
By comparison, the AT-802, which is a lot more airplane, has a fair number of limitations, a lot longer ground roll, and isn't nearly as polite at it's performance limits...though it's a lot more solid to fly. The dromader does what it's designed to do; it hauls a decent load at a relatively low cost.
