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Old 23rd Feb 2004, 02:17
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Citation type rating

Covering old ground i suppose but anyway, can anyone recommend a good school where i can get my first type rating on a Biz jet.
Not being an expert on biz jets i am looking at the Citation from 2 points, 1 there are lots of them and 2 the rating appears to be good value.ie it's all i can afford for the moment

Any other information on working with biz jets would be gratefully received.

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Depends where you are, but a good bet could be Pete Turner at Executive Aviation Services, Gloucester.
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Just be careful your not buying a type with a limited future, Some of the older citation 1s and 2s will never be converted to RVSM amongst other things and will slowly drain out of the european Bizjet scene. No point in paying for a rating you cant use.

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And what about the 525 series?

A Simuflite or FSI JAA and FAA qualification on the CitationJet, CJ1 and CJ2 would be a smart investment, wouldn't it?
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Depends obviously what the one is after! I wouldn't invest a penny until I know that there will be a job. Makes more sense to have a job offer and then do THAT rating if they don't like to train you one or other reason.
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Tonka,

Cheapest and best way is to go to Flight Safety in America. You then have to do 6 landings on the jet back in UK to get the type rating. As mentioned above Pete Turner is about the only person in the UK who does them on the CII or you could go to Flight Safety in Paris for a CII rating. Marshalls at Cambridge can do them on the glass cockpit Citation Bravo.

There are jobs around for those with a Citation rating. The most popular one is the Xcel at the moment. You will have to go to America for that though.

Do not forget Lears or bigger Biz Jets.

Most corporate operators will not employ you without a rating though.

Good Luck

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MM:

As you seem to be up on these sort of things, can you give a rough idea of the prices charged for a rating by the four organisations you mention?

Ta very much.
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Miles Magister

If you get a chance, I would also be interested in the costs of ratings that you've mentioned.

With thanks.
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A lot of good info above from my collegues.

I would only add, train on a sim with a good organisation eg FSI or Simuflite, ( especially if it is your first Jet type ). Yes, its more expensive but the learning experinece is tremendous. You can simulate and practice proceedures and emergencies that can never/should never be done in the aircraft and gain a good ammount of operational confidence. LOFTS are good value too, simply for putting you in the senarios as if on a real mission, a different mindset to the training you will have done up to then.

Good luck
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