Hawker Hunter through Tower Bridge
 

Have always had abit of an interest in this incident, but really know very little about it !

Any facts, views, or outright lies appreciated !

As I recall, and I expect that others will add to it, the Hunter was from 1 Squadron. The story I heard was that pilots were getting fed-up with the government giving the RAF a bad time, scaling it down etc. In a bar somewhere, a pilot (Flt Lt. Alan Pollock if my memory serves me right) who was about to leave the RAF agreed to be elected to fly a Hunter through Tower Bridge as a protest.

It was told to me by a senior officer so I repeat it for what it is worth. I have no doubt if it's wrong we will hear about it.

I thought Alan was on 54 Sqn at the time. At least, I think that's what he told me at a 54 Sqn reunion some 25 yrs ago - mind you, it was a very alchoholic weekend...... I also seem to remember we had a painting of the event in the crewroom.

Can any current 54 Sqn or 1 Sqn members help on this, it should be somewhere in the Squadron archives.

Thanks,
A

I had seen a painting of this event quite a few years ago. I have been searching for a print but i think it was a one off.

alexis_lambert........

Coincidentally (if it's any help) I was browsing through one of the bookstalls at the PFA Rally at Kemble a couple of weeks ago and came across a softbacked book about the history of Tangmere. It includes a photo of the print, albeit in black and white.

Can't remember the title; just "Tangmere" I think. Looked like it might be one in a series of airfield histories. If you can find the book there may be a reference for the photo that might throw some light on subject

The jet was in Bahrein (RAF Muharraq) in about 1970, can't remember whether it was on 8 or 208 (both sqns there at the time).

You couldn't miss it - it had a dayglo Tower Bridge shaped "zap" on the tail, so officialdom must have had a sense of humour then, at least in the Gulf....!

Al was a Flight Commander on No 1(F) Sqn at the time of the Tower Bridge incident. Following the feat he then returned to West Raynham leaving an angry trail of complaints behind him from the airfields in East Anglia which he had 'taken out' inverted at about 200 ft on his way home. His rejoin at Raynham was from an inverted run-in to the break from about 200 ft. The painting of the event used to hang in the 1(F) Sqn museum, and probably still does.

Yep recall the famous 22 Loop by Hunters, was not the same feat achieved at a Plymouth Air Show that I seem to recall by the same team.

1956 was the year that 6 Hunters returning from a display ran out of fuel, couldn't make base due to adverse weather conditions, these 6 were Cat 5 but I do believe there were additional Hunters having the same problem but were subsequently salvaged.

The feat under the Tower Bridge was at first thought to have been a joke, I was at Wattisham at the time, can't recall whether he beat up WTM on the way back to Raynham though.

:D

On the day concerned I was sitting at my desk at Dunsfold listening on the phone to a Wing Commander in OR speaking about some issue of the day, when he started to speak ever more slowly (a very rare event for that individual) and just before he came to a stop his last words were ‘There is a Hunter flying under the bridges’ There then followed about 3 secs of silence at both ends before we both spoke simultaneously one word – Pollock.

But then you see we both knew him quite well.

John Gary Cooper, I know of the Hunter formation from the DFLS running out /short of fuel at West Raynham in the 1950's but not the incident you mention.

Do you have any more detail on where the Hunters were displaying, what squadron they were from, etc ?

There was a similar incident in 1955 when the 54 Squadron display team (Black knights?) were performing a display for some aerial photographers over Odiham.

I believe they had problems with the weather and being picked up by Odiham ATC during their GCA. Eventually they almost all ran out of fuel. A couple of the Hunters pilots ejected as their engines flamed-out, another force landed at Tangmere and another diverted to Farnborough. There was a Vampire T.11 and a Meteor night-fighter involved as camera ships too - the Vamp was abandoned and the crew, one of whom was a USAF photographer, bailed out over Odiham. I think the Meteor was the only aircraft to land back at Odiham in one piece although on one engine to conserve fuel.

Quite a display :D

OldBonaMate,

Thanks for clearing up my 54/1f anomalie.

In my defence, I must say that the 54 th's 60th aniversary reunion in 76 was a 'very good' weekend, and over the years, I have spent a lot of time in 1F Sqn's crewroom. Old age must be blurring the memory.

A

Henry

DFLS is this the Day Fighter Leader Squadron (School?) at West Raynham incident? I was under the impression that this was part of an air display team, I seem to recall that 6 were written off in the same incident and that others were salvaged being less than Cat 5 damaged.

Thats right JGC, it was the Day Fighter Leaders School though to the best of my knowledge it was not an aerobatic team.
The school would have been too busy to indulge in that sort of activity.

They were on a normal training sortie and were caught out by a deterioration in the weather, but depending on who tells the story there was more to it than that.

Whatever, it did cause something of a stink and the sudden posting of certain gentlemen in authority.

Thankyou all for your comments, is very good to hear some of the "auctal" history behind this, just a shame a no doubt outstanding officer had his carear cut short !

24 Ship Hunter Formation!
 

There's an interesting article in 'AVIATION NEWS' (September 2003, page 691) about the 'Black Arrows', including a rare photograph of 24! Hunters in formation, as they practiced over RAF Odiham on September 7, 1958.

Although not showing the famous 'Farnborough Loop', I thought that Mike Jenvey, in particular, might be interested.

Just got hold of a copy of Flypast September 1982. It has a picture of the painting and an article by Alan Pollock called ' The Day I Flew Under Tower Bridge'. If pictures can be posted on here let me know and i'll scan it in.

Alexis, would dearly love to read the said article, any chance of a copy..... could of course cover postage, copying etc....

PM me your e-mail address and i'll scan it in and send it to you.

My God, has Flypast been going since 1982. No wonder she-who-must-be-obeyed complains about the size of the pile of flying related comics.......Flypast, Aeroplane, Pilot, Flyer, Todays Pilot ........

A truly great story. Out of interest what happened to the polit concerned? He must have had some sort of censure.

Navaleye- read page 1?

I remember being told at the time, by a mutual acquaintance of Pollock's, that :mad::mad: had previously been in trouble for carrying out illegal aerobatic manoeuvres in a Gnat at Valley - something to do with problems with the tailplane as far as I remember.

Mike Jenvey


Here's the picture you asked about.


http://img48.photobucket.com/albums/...22_hunters.jpg
22 Hunter loop

The formation was led by Squadron Leader Roger Topp, then OC 111 Squadron.
By lucky coincidence, I found myself sitting next to him on a flight to Antigua last winter. Now 81 years old, he had a wonderful career, including leading the Black Arrows and, as a test pilot, worked on many aircraft up to the Tornado. One of Roger's students at ETPS went on to become a distinguished test pilot himself - none other than our own John Farley.
Roger enjoyed reminiscing - but probably not half as much as I enjoyed listening. Our respective ladies were very patient - no doubt relieved to discover we weren't staying at the same hotel!

Flying Lawer

Great shot.

Was that the year when 22 became 21 when one left the formation to show off on his own by banging out.

And in view of Princess Margaret too I recall.

Have forgotten what got into him to go off on his own and misbehave like that.

Had a long walk back from Laffan's Plain!

Milt

The event you are thinking of was when the then new Odiham Hunter wing put up 16 from the Farnborough to celebrate the RAE Jubilee in July 1955 in front of Princess Margaret.

The Hunter had only recently entered service so it was far too early for form aeros. Four sections streamed off for a flyby of four boxes. Number 2 in the third section took off with a false lock and wing-rocked right out of the formation, I don't think he made it but I am not sure about that. The aircraft hit a barn. The missing man type fly-by was fairly poignant given the smoke going up a mile or two away.

JF

Hawker Hunter-Kingston! Well more like Ham 5th April 1968.
 

Whilst John Farley was having a 'phone conversation in his office at Dunsfold, I was in Wally Rayner's office (Assistant Works Manager) at Kingston. Just before mid-day, I looked out of the window and saw a Hunter with 4 drop tanks, low(200ft or so) going like the clappers in the distance towards London. At lunch shortly afterwards I mentioned this strange sighting to others, but nobody had seen the a/c. I thought no more of the matter until I got home and listened to the news on the radio.

I would love a copy of the mentioned incident and picture. I am actually distantly related to Alan Pollock and have been trying to find some information on the subject for some time. I have been in touch with various members of the family but the picture has been misplaced. We would all love to see it.

He was the son of Agnes and John Pollock. They were both Scottish although he and his siblings were born in London where his father was a Police Inspector. Agnes, his mother was my Great Grandfathers sister.

I would be very gratful for any info.:)

Try contacting the Officer Commanding No 1(F) Sqn, RAF Cottesmore. An oil painting of the event used to hang in the crewroom.

Hawker Hunter London Bridge (II)
 

Having read this thread some time ago I came across this article:

Jever Steam Laundry - 4 Sqn personnel Pollock 004


I like the letter to the editor at the end (if only he could see the world of 2009!!!)


SIR,-The beating-up of Central London and Tower Bridge by a Hunter signifies to me that the adventurous spirit is not
yet quite dead in the RAF. The apparently timid fashion
in which some RAF aircraft have been flown at air displays during recent
years had led me to believe that pilots who were willing to fly in a
spirited fashion, using fine judgment in the process (and thereby
increasing their efficiency as fighting pilots), no longer existed in
the RAF.

I bet that this flight gave the aircraft knockers and the Neddies in
Whitehall (who don't know what aircraft are, anyway, or so it would
seem) something to think about.

Good luck to the pilot! I would rather trust the defence of this country
to a handful of his type than to a great number of the timids.

Redditch, Worcshttp://www.rafjever.org/graphics/1px-trans.gifJ. G. ROBINSON



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I love this story.

I don't neccessarily condone what Flt Lt Pollock did, but I can certainly understand it.

Looking back now it's all a bit of fun, and an excellent piece of flying. I would have loved to have been standing on the bridge at the time. However, that's all given the fact that he pulled it off....

The stunt was obviously well within the pilot's abilities, but we certainly wouldn't be talking about him with such admiration if something had gone wrong.

Nevertheless, nothing went wrong, and it was frigging awesome.

"I don't neccessarily condone what Flt Lt Pollock did, but I can certainly understand it.

Looking back now it's all a bit of fun, and an excellent piece of flying. I would have loved to have been standing on the bridge at the time. However, that's all given the fact that he pulled it off....

The stunt was obviously well within the pilot's abilities, but we certainly wouldn't be talking about him with such admiration if something had gone wrong.

Nevertheless, nothing went wrong, and it was frigging awesome."

Flying under the lower half of London Bridge requires absolutely no skill whatsoever.

It requires an absolute idiot with average RAF fighter pilot flying skills.

....and yes, Pillock, sorry Pollack, was my era.

Really? Given the little time he had to get himself sorted?

I imagine that had he planned it it wouldn't be a particularly difficult manouvre for one of you guys, but since it was a spur of the moment thing I guessed there would be an element of difficulty.

lightning mate
 

Your denigration of a fellow pilot does you a disservice.

Flying under the lower half of London Bridge requires absolutely no skill whatsoever.
 

... as the gentleman can't even name the correct bridge, comment best ignored! Is it too much to expect that all references to London Bridge be changed to Tower Bridge....especially the thread name?:ugh:

Best stick to silhouettes LM

London Bridge - Tower Bridge
 

As I recall I bunch of rich septics got equally confused 40 odd years ago and spent a fortune buying the wrong bridge :E

Mr P is certainly alive and well.

A great guy full of enthusiasm and "can-do" attitude - precisely the sort of chap that the stuffy miseries in Whitehall and elsewhere resent!

With all this talk about Al perhaps sombody can get him to tell of his motorcycle trip from Gutersloh to visit his father in Istanbul with Fred D**** on the pillion.

Or of his adventure crossing from Sylt to Niebul by bicycle.

Or of his trip to raid Group HQ on New Years Day.

An original Good Egg !