Royal Navy Devon in Oregon Desert?
Anyone know how a Royal Navy Devon has ended up at the Eagle Crater Lake Inn, Chemult, Oregon?
It is literally right alongside Highway 97. I’m pretty sure that it was a Devon but I was driving past on the other side of the road in heavy traffic and only got a glimpse of it. Google Maps, Bing Maps, etc. don't show it yet so it can't have been there long. |
TWH,
Your post intrigued me and I did some searching. I did not find anything definitive, but I did find this interesting comment in a review of the Eagle Crater Lake Inn: The children's play area seems to consist of a little field, an old, partially disassembled airplane that was roped off when we were there, and an old firetruck that, although they let children play in and on it, is actually used as a backup truck during fires and they therefore don't want kids moving knobs or levers. Thanks, but no thanks; we survived the Bates Motel. ...The deadbolt did not work on the door lock, so I grabbed the 9mm from the pickup for added security during the night. ... |
It's actually Sea Heron XR442... Curious that it should end up in the corner of a foreign field...
https://aerialvisuals.ca/AirframeDos...?Serial=108331 |
It's visible on Google Maps (but not on Streetview) at the location described on Aerovisuals, on the opposite side of US 97 from Chiloquin State Airport.
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Maybe its owners have moved motels....
Recall all but one of the then surviving Sea Herons were at Lee-on-Solent when I went to the display there in 1978, thoroughly enjoyed that. The missing one was based at Yeovilton or Culdrose, some Navy unit or Bigwig named FONAC was its keeper as I recall... |
Can't speak for the particulars of that hotel or any aircraft nearby (it's been many years since I was there), but I can vouch for Crater Lake being a particularly scenic destination and worth a visit...
Although if memory serves, the road and traffic getting there was pretty nasty. |
We drove right past there on our 2017 USA road trip,we had landed at SFO in late afternoon - managed to grab our hire car (Sportage) early and spent the night at a hotel nr Fairfield,ca, - early start next day for our short drive up to near Madras,Or (493 miles).
We had some lovely food and gorgeous Huckleberry Cider (never saw any of that again :( ) in what was then a sports bar near our fairfield hotel,that cider zonked me out nicely for a good sleep :) |
Originally Posted by treadigraph
(Post 11564242)
It's actually Sea Heron XR442... Curious that it should end up in the corner of a foreign field...
https://aerialvisuals.ca/AirframeDos...?Serial=108331 XR442/G-HRON was stored at Staverton, UK Departed to Albany OR by sea 20/01/2006. Later stored at a private residence at Kizer Ave NE, Albany OR where it was noted until 04/2019 when it was moved to the present location outside a restaurant on Highway 97 opposite the airfield at Chiloquin. The reason it isn't visible on streetview at the current location, is that the latest view is dated 06/2018 |
Just looked on Google. That is no way to treat a lady.
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Originally Posted by treadigraph
(Post 11564268)
Maybe its owners have moved motels....
Recall all but one of the then surviving Sea Herons were at Lee-on-Solent when I went to the display there in 1978, thoroughly enjoyed that. The missing one was based at Yeovilton or Culdrose, some Navy unit or Bigwig named FONAC was its keeper as I recall... |
That's it. XM296. Recall it had a green cheatline rather than blue, confirmed by an AB pic. My dusty old log says I saw it at Biggin Hill in 1983...
It then went to the US as N82D and XR442/G-HRON was used as spares to keep it airworthy with the Albany Aero Club. That's now in Bolivia... or was... |
Originally Posted by treadigraph
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That's it. XM296. Recall it had a green cheatline rather than blue, confirmed by an AB pic. My dusty old log says I saw it at Biggin Hill in 1983...
It then went to the US as N82D and XR442/G-HRON was used as spares to keep it airworthy with the Albany Aero Club. That's now in Bolivia... or was... https://www.airhistory.net/photo/399071/N82D |
That's a shame, the report I saw seemed to suggest it was on the road to recovery. Not visible on Google maps tho I don't know how old the current image is.
What's happened to the Jersey Heron? Is it still unairworthy? |
Last I heard they were crowd-funding to restore it for static display on the island.
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Originally Posted by VictorGolf
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Last I heard they were crowd-funding to restore it for static display on the island.
There are now no airworthy DH.114 Herons left anywhere in the World. |
Remember 'ORG arriving overhead Duxford a few years ago, such a beautiful purring noise...
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It is hardly the desert, which is a bit further east, but more forested and wet.
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Originally Posted by treadigraph
(Post 11565129)
Remember 'ORG arriving overhead Duxford a few years ago, such a beautiful purring noise...
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What was it like to fly/fly in the Devon ? Noisy, or serene ?
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Originally Posted by SpringHeeledJack
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What was it like to fly/fly in the Devon ? Noisy, or serene ?
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On a short course at Cranfield many years ago, I flew on both their Dove and Jetstream for various flight performance experiments/demos. I don't recall the former being particularly noisy.
Never flew in a piston Heron, but I had a couple of domestic flights in Canada in the turboprop ST-27 conversion. |
Interesting, Liffy. I was under the impression that there were no airworthy Doves or Herons anywhere.
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Is any one able to confirm the current status of N415SA (c/n 14064). Riley conversion, in a museum at Vasteras SWEDEN ?
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Originally Posted by DaveReidUK
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Never flew in a piston Heron, but I had a couple of domestic flights in Canada in the turboprop ST-27 conversion.
One of the N/S Herons at Woolsington https://i.imgur.com/wdFYMWK.jpg |
Originally Posted by Planemike
(Post 11565704)
Is any one able to confirm the current status of N415SA (c/n 14064). Riley conversion, in a museum at Vasteras SWEDEN ?
Image of it here from 2017: |
A friend of mine travelled on a Fiji Airways Heron in the early '60s, aged maybe 5 or 6. I recall he told me that the inter-island flight was enlivened by a fire in a waste paper bin...
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Originally Posted by Herod
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Interesting, Liffy. I was under the impression that there were no airworthy Doves or Herons anywhere.
D-INKA [c/n 04266] https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/10962827 NZ1813 [c/n 04396] airworthy with RNZAF historic flight: https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/9894322 ZK-ZKF [c/n 04312]: https://www.airhistory.net/photo/180760/ZK-ZKF/NZ1805 ZK-XNZ [c/n 04426] : D-IFSA [C/ 04531]: https://www.airhistory.net/photo/600561/D-IFSA There should also be G-DHDV and VH-DHI but noeither have flown for a while. |
Earlier mention of Cranfield in the context of Navy Herons reminded me of an incident when I nearly collided with a Heron at Cranfield. I was ferrying a glider from Dunstable one evening, arriving at Cranfield after hours and in the middle of a thunderstorm. As the airfield was closed I decided to descend over the airfield while I could still see it and lost 3000' just crossing to the far side of the main runway to land near the hangars to await help to put the glider away. As I crossed the runway, at about 300', a Navy Heron passed underneath me, having just landed. He dropped someone off and then taxied past me on his way back to the runway for take off.
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I flew in the Cranfield Doves during a flight testing course as part of my Aero Eng degree from London QMC. Great fun and a brilliant course - I learned more in 2 weeks there than in 4 years at QMC! Apparently one of the Doves had belonged to Emil Savundra, an infamous swindler of the '60s! The Doves weren't particularly noisy as I recall - unlike the loathsome Jestreams on which I suffered 15 hours of misery doing a multi-engine refresher course in the RAF.
When Lulsgate became Bristol Airport in 1957, Jersey Airlines Herons were a common sight along with various other propeller-engined airliners as until the late '60s, the runway was too short for jets. |
Flew on a Riley modded Heron from San Juan to St. Croix. I think it was Carib Air? It had four big, flat HO style engines which greatly improved performance. Noted the emergency exit hatches in ceiling. Was that standard on all Herons or was this a converted Sea Heron?
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If memory serves, the overhead hatches were standard in the Dove... Read a flight test of the Dove 8 recently, think they may have been mentioned there.
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Originally Posted by tonytales
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Flew on a Riley modded Heron from San Juan to St. Croix. I think it was Carib Air? It had four big, flat HO style engines which greatly improved performance. Noted the emergency exit hatches in ceiling. Was that standard on all Herons or was this a converted Sea Heron?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prinair https://www.airhistory.net/basic-operator/1761/Prinair |
This seems like an appropriate place to ask this question. The military version of the Dove was renamed the Devon. Why was the Heron not renamed?
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Thread drift but there are overhead hatches on the Dragon Rapide as well. Perhaps it was a De Havilland "thing".
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I remember several Prinair Herons at Opa Locka when I went there in 1984, also I think they had several dismantled Malaysian AF Herons there for spares.
Of course, there lives a Heron less than a mile from where I sit now, the former British Nuclear Power example G-ANUO, masquerading as Morton's G-AOXL outside the Croydon Airport terminal building. I see it's been spruced up a bit and now carries Airport House titles rather than Morton Air Services! https://maps.app.goo.gl/G1Zuk3ejy6XnWnFq9 (There was also a Tiger Moth inside the terminal building a few years ago; believe it's now either airworthy or still under rebuild. Be nice to see the Heron flying again but not courtesy of the high winds that are presently doing unspeakable things to the sycamore trees at the end of the garden.) |
Originally Posted by BEagle
(Post 11565853)
I flew in the Cranfield Doves during a flight testing course as part of my Aero Eng degree from London QMC. Great fun and a brilliant course - I learned more in 2 weeks there than in 4 years at QMC!
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Originally Posted by treadigraph
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That's it. XM296. Recall it had a green cheatline rather than blue, confirmed by an AB pic. My dusty old log says I saw it at Biggin Hill in 1983...
It then went to the US as N82D and XR442/G-HRON was used as spares to keep it airworthy with the Albany Aero Club. That's now in Bolivia... or was... Traditionally, Commander-in-Chiefs' barges, their personal fast launches, had a green hull (whereas the hull of other Flag Officers' barges were dark blue) and this distinction was perpetuated in the Fleet Air Arm by the green, rather than blue, cheatline to which Dave refers on the Heron, and on the lower part of the hull on FONAC's personal helicopter, which, for a reason which has nothng to do with aviation, was always known as the "Green Parrot", as seen here at Post #161. Finally, if only for the fun of emphasising that some Services claim to have traditions rather than habits, here is the confirmation that the expression the "Green Parrot" goes back over 100 years since Admiral Sir Hedworth Meux was Commander-in-Chief Portsmouth from 1912 to 1916! :ok: Jack |
I hitched a ride on a 207Sqn Devon down from Lossie to Turnhouse. It had just dropped off the AOC and was returning empty, I was working the line at VASS and just mentioned in passing that I was heading off on leave that evening, the crew said "hop aboard". I settled in and had one of the most memorable flights ever as we headed south using the low level route. For an admiral's barge the aircraft was spritely with lovely smooth movements. An altogether unforgettable ride as I sat on the AOC's throne and watched the cairngorms slide by at wing tip level.:ok:
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Dredging my memory banks, I attended school close to KLGA to get my A&P licenses. Lunch times, you could walk across highway bridge and get right on ramp in Marine Terminal area. Pan Am had the big seaplane hangar and a row of smaller hangars where Pan Am supported B-18, B-23 and DC-3 exec aircraft. Saw my first Dove there but it had fixed gear. Nose gear had a truly artistic fairing over it. A very pretty aircraft.
Going back to early post of flying in a Riley modded Heron, it was indeed Prinair operated. Good ride and those overhead escape hatches seemed like a good idea with all that water below enroute. |
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