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Less Hair 30th Jun 2023 12:23

LH's Connie is stored and will not be flying any more. They halted the work halfway through it after seriously busting their budget.

washoutt 30th Jun 2023 12:45

I always love it when a landing propliner needs to dive in order to reach terra firma.

bean 30th Jun 2023 12:50


Originally Posted by VictorGolf (Post 11459359)
Is the HARS Super=Connie still airworthy in Oz?

Yes it is

BEagle 30th Jun 2023 16:11

Back in 2017 I was on a trip to Ljubljana from Birmingham via Zurich. The second flight was delayed...and delayed....until finally it was announced that we would be flying on a different airline. A bus came to pick us up and we drove to a remote part of the airport....and there was the Breitling Connie. Ooh, what a nice surprise!

Sadly that wasn't our aircraft though - we boarded some ageing ATR which then droned its way to our destination.

ZFT 30th Jun 2023 18:50

There was a Connie outside of Zest facility at Manila Airport a few years ago. Had a good look around it and seem to recall the odd bullet hole.

treadigraph 30th Jun 2023 19:13


Originally Posted by ZFT (Post 11459603)
There was a Connie outside of Zest facility at Manila Airport a few years ago. Had a good look around it and seem to recall the odd bullet hole.

Think that's gone to Australia now - Qantas Museum?

DHfan 30th Jun 2023 20:54

There was a Connie at Kirkop just outside Luqa Airport on Malta many years ago.
If I remember rightly it had been impounded for gun-running and then bought by a couple of local businessmen who towed it off the airport and turned it into a restaurant.
We dined there in September 1988 but when we tried to return a few days later it had closed.

Some years later it was vandalised and set on fire. Only the wings survived and last I heard were at Ta' Qali. One of the partners had told us he was planning to tow the complete aircraft to Ta' Qali which sounded totally impossible.

SpringHeeledJack 30th Jun 2023 21:10

What ever became of that Connie N7777G that seemed to be based in the UK/IRL for some years ?

Fris B. Fairing 30th Jun 2023 21:35


Originally Posted by SpringHeeledJack (Post 11459642)
What ever became of that Connie N7777G that seemed to be based in the UK/IRL for some years ?

N7777G is in the Science Museum at Wroughton displayed in TWA colours, why I'll never know. The Manila Super Connie is now at the Qantas Founders Museum at Longreach.

N7777G The Stones' Connie
The Manila Connie

DHfan 30th Jun 2023 22:11

I'm not sure you can use the words Wroughton and displayed in the same sentence.

We went to an airshow there in 1990-ish and saw the exhibits in the main hangar including the Connie. It didn't register what the markings were and not having much interest in airliners it wouldn't have meant anything anyway. The hangar was brightly lit and looked immaculate as did the "exhibits".
I believe that's the hangar that's reputedly dangerous and structurally unsound.

Coochycool 30th Jun 2023 22:51

Can't be sure if it was the same one, but summer 1993 I stumbled across a similarly abandoned Connie in Malta. Fraid the precise location escapes me, but it had certainly been used as a restaurant/diner.

Managed to get inside her, which was I recall a little rough. Looking for souvenirs I found quite a few Maltese coins scattered around the floor!

Cooch

EXDAC 30th Jun 2023 23:18

This Connie nostalgia reminded me of a flight back in October 1992. It took a while to find it in my logs. The Tucson Soaring Club (Arizona) had displayed a Janus glider at an airshow at nearby Pinal. It was my job to fly it home and departure was very close to sunset. The MATS Connie was leaving at the same time and graciously allowed our glider and tug to depart first. Never forget it holding short with all 4 running while we took the runway.

Lockheed Constellation Survivors

DHfan 1st Jul 2023 00:35


Originally Posted by Coochycool (Post 11459675)
Can't be sure if it was the same one, but summer 1993 I stumbled across a similarly abandoned Connie in Malta. Fraid the precise location escapes me, but it had certainly been used as a restaurant/diner.

Managed to get inside her, which was I recall a little rough. Looking for souvenirs I found quite a few Maltese coins scattered around the floor!

Cooch

It seems unlikely that there were two abandoned ex-restaurant Connies in Malta.

From Exdac's link
Lockheed Constellation Survivors

Not permanently closed in April 1988 but our visit could well have been one of the last only 5 or 6 months later.

Mine host, "George", who said he was one of the owners switched on the cockpit lights and suggested starting an engine. There was a whirring noise from one of the nacelles and consternation from my lady, now wife.

2port 4th Jul 2023 10:43

There were a couple rotting away in Sao Tome 20 - 25 years ago

DaveReidUK 4th Jul 2023 12:40


Originally Posted by DHfan (Post 11459662)
I'm not sure you can use the words Wroughton and displayed in the same sentence.

We went to an airshow there in 1990-ish and saw the exhibits in the main hangar including the Connie. It didn't register what the markings were and not having much interest in airliners it wouldn't have meant anything anyway. The hangar was brightly lit and looked immaculate as did the "exhibits".
I believe that's the hangar that's reputedly dangerous and structurally unsound.

I'm pretty sure it's the adjacent hangar (the one with the Comet and Trident) that's out-of-bounds due to its condition, rather than the one with the Connie.

treadigraph 4th Jul 2023 19:55


Originally Posted by 2port (Post 11461665)
There were a couple rotting away in Sao Tome 20 - 25 years ago

Still there...

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@0.373...l=en&entry=ttu

ATNotts 4th Jul 2023 21:14


Originally Posted by treadigraph (Post 11461957)

Crikey they are well camouflaged! I eventually saw one (the restaurant) still can't see the other.

treadigraph 4th Jul 2023 22:30

They are practically holding hands! :)

ATNotts 5th Jul 2023 06:11

Got it!

EXDAC 5th Jul 2023 15:19


Originally Posted by treadigraph (Post 11462031)
They are practically holding hands! :)

Best picture of them seems to be GE image from 12/2002 before they were hidden by the restaurant structures.

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....6cec917a8e.png


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